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During a visit to lobby legislators on transgender issues, Senator Carden Summers (R) knelt down and told a child he would protect her. When he learned she was trans, he backed away.


On Feb. 6, a group of families met to lobby senators on issues affecting the local transgender community in Georgia. One mother, Lena Kotler, decided to take her two children with her to give the topic a human face. While waiting to meet with Democratic Sen. Kim Jackson, who they had heard was a big supporter of LGBTQ+ rights, another senator passed by — Republican Sen. Carden Summers, the primary sponsor of the state’s bathroom ban bill. Little did he know that one of the children he would be interacting with, Aleix, 8 years old, was a transgender child.

According to Kotler and other families who were present, the senator stopped to say hello. That’s when Kotler spoke to Senator Summers about how she was there with her kids to “talk to legislators about keeping her kids safe.” Although she did not mention that one of her children was trans, they were present with LGBTQ+ signage - something the Senator apparently missed when he knelt down in front of Aleix and said, according to Kotler, “Well you know, we’re working on that and I’m going to protect kids like you.”

Kotler then replied, “Yeah - Alex is trans, and she wants to be safe at school, she wants to go to the bathroom and be safe.”

That is when, according to multiple witnesses, Sen. Summers stood up and fumbled his words, repeating, "I mean, yeah, I'm going to make sure she's safe by going to the right bathroom," continuing to use the correct pronouns for Aleix. When asked if he would make her go to a boy's bathroom, he then allegedly backed away, saying, "You're attacking me," turned around, and walked off quickly.

read more: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/georgia-senator-vows-to-protect-girl?publication_id=994764&post_id=141716994

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Just because you're using the same word (involve) it doesn't mean it has the same semantics.

She is exposing and labeling her children herself. She's probably telling her kids what to feel and what they are. At that age a kid isn't like "Mother I have become transexual, we need to fight the Republicans, bring me to the nearest politician".

Don't get your kid involved in politics, don't tell your kids they are transgender, don't you dare giving them surgery for their gender....... let them grow and figure it out themselves. Just be supportive and loving. You can fight for them, but don't get them involved in something that isn't necessarily permanent to them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a lot of assumptions you've just made about this random mother and child you know nothing about.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a kid. Do you think a kid knows what transexual means without an adult telling them? Or what a politician or laws mean? Or that the politician was going to be there? Did the kid tell the mother what to say?

Please explain to me how this could have happened, a likely scenario, in which the mother didn't push this on the child.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You wouldn't know what transexual means if you hadn't been told or read or heard about it somewhere. That is as true of adults as it is of children. What you seem to be implying is that a child could not possibly understand the concept, and that is where we clearly disagree.

You don't give children enough credit. Children are capable of understanding how they are different from others, even if they don't have the words to describe it. They can understand that there are people with authority who make the rules, even if they don't know the details. They are able to recognize when things are unfair and feel indignant about it, even if they're unsure of why or how.

The mother can give her child the words to describe how they feel, the details of the world we live in, explain the whys and hows of it, and the child is capable of comparing that to what they know and thinking for themselves. Children are impressionable because of their lack of prior knowledge with which to make that comparison, but that does not mean they lack agency.

It is certainly possible that this mother manipulated her child, put words in her mouth, shielded her from information that could provide a basis for comparison, but that is an assumption for which you have no evidence except that you can't imagine the alternative.

The alternative being that this mother raised her child lovingly, taught them all they could, trusted them with information from other sources, trusted them to make their own judgements with their guidance, and supported them when they came to their own conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, the kid read the newspaper and asked to go there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Don't know and it doesn't matter. The point is the kid, if informed properly and given the choice to go or not to go, is capable of making that choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Kids know what they are.