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cross-posted from: https://ttrpg.network/post/4222671

Want a 3D printer in New York? Get ready for fingerprinting and a 15 day wait

Assembly Bill A8132 has been assigned a "Same As" bill in the Senate: S8586 [NYSenate.gov] [A8132 - 2023]

I don't own a gun, I never have and I don't plan to at any time in the future. But if these pass in the NYS Senate and Congress, it would be required to submit fingerprints for a background check then wait 15 days, before you could own any "COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL."

This isn't even going to stop any crimes from happening, for pity sakes regular guns end up in criminal charges all the time, regardless of background check laws. How about some real change and effective measures, rather then virtue-signaling and theater illusion for a constituency?

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[–] astraeus 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Or even better, just going across the state line and buying one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Don't tempt them. New York cops will already pull over cars crossing the bridges and have been known to fine and/or arrest people for bringing in cigarettes bought out of state.

God forbid this passes and then they track you leaving the Microcenter in Paterson, NJ. They'll probably call in a SWAT team and a helicopter.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or buying/building a milling machine. Or a lathe. Or a drill, a hacksaw, and some files.

15 day waiting periods for Home Depot trips. You better plan those plumbing projects in advance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't a guy build an AK-47 from a shovel with basic hand tools?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He built most of an AK receiver (the federally regulated part in the US) out of a shovel but probably 90% of the gun (by mass) was off the shelf AK parts. And he has decent tools. But it's still pretty impressive.

Here's one of the original threads.. It has cats!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wait it is illegal to bring cigarettes across state lines? Is that not a commerce clause issue?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

It is if you're going to resell them. If they're for you whatever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Tobacco is taxed at the state level. NY(C)'s tax is very high. Neighboring states' taxes are lower. Or have been, historically. Thus NY gets unreasonably angry about this if you pay the cig tax to a different state.

Mostly it's just a pretense to pull people over and harass them over nothing. But if they can't get you for anything else they've been documented to book individuals for possessing packs of smokes with the wrong tax stamp on them. Got two packs on you? Well, obviously that's "intent to resell!" Book 'em, boys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's a myth - It's a felony offense for gun stores to sell guns to non residents of the state they're in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I am certain he meant buying the 3D printer from out of state.

[–] astraeus 2 points 9 months ago

Definitely meant 3D printers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely not a myth. I sold guns for Walmart for five years until mid 2022. The only people I couldn't sell guns to were minors under 21 and residents of California, New York, and Illinois. We accepted IDs from every other state. And sometimes the background check was so quick they were even able to take it home same day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure, but only if the purchase adheres to state laws where the resident lives in. You can't leave your state and buy a gun that's illegal at home. Here's the ATF's explanation.