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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Spray on tans are also frowned upon, where I'm from. But the natural production of pigment in response to sunlight isn't nearly comparable to chemically changing tones or caking on makeup to hide your ethnicity.

I still don't see them on the same level as attempting to change ones race as a show of wealth. People should see the beauty of their natural skin.

UV Radiation is required to produce Vitamin D, the World Health Organization recommends a minimum of 5 minutes of direct sunlight exposure a week to avoid deficiency.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your take away from what I wrote was that I think people should never expose themselves to the sun/UV? The benefits of moderate UV exposure are completely irrelevant to the point I was making.

I just explained how they are comparable and really don't know what else to tell you. Maybe someone else can give it a go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you're missing the point.

Some cultures find tanned skin to be beautiful, others find light skin to be beautiful.

In either case, wealthier people can achieve either darker or lighter skin by spending more or less time in the sun.

Poorer people who's length of exposure to the sun is a function of their work, can emulate lighter or darker skin with various lotions and potions.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think a more utilitarian and functional approach to beauty standards would be better for everyone. Paler is less healthy, so is being overly tanned, natural is best. People can be lighter or darker to a certain extent but their natural pigmentation has a range defined by their racial characteristics, and they should never be ashamed or disgusted of their natural tone. To say lighter or darker is more beautiful is racism, simple as.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a real idiot.

People will perceive beauty according to societal and cultural norms established over millennia.

You can't tell someone what they ought to find beautiful.

It's not racist, given that we're taking about variations within a single race, not comparisons between races.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some cultures perceive being fat or skinny differently because of the correlation of wealth which changes between impoverished nations and developed nations. Being overly fat or thin purely for cosmetic purposes is almost universally shunned by progressive movements because it is factually and objectively worse than a healthy weight. Skin Tone will be the same way. Future generations will look back and agree with me on this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imposing your own ideas on what other cultures ought to feel is the height of arrogance.

Similarly, it's incredibly arrogant to presume that your own "enlightened" attitudes will be more prevalent in the future.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A culture of harm and racism, that sorts people into class by lightness of skin, needs to be imposed over with discrimination of equal or greater measure. Tolerance for the intolerant is unacceptable. Maybe India doesn't see the necessity compared to countries with much more violent racial tensions, but it's a lesson that can be learned an easy way or a hard way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nonsense. You're just parroting catch phrases. Perceptions of beauty are not "intolerance".

I sincerely hope that future generations are less judgemental and ready to label those people they don't really understand.

Honestly, just observe other cultures without trying to assess whether they're good or bad. They just are the way they are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you believe something fucked up then people are gonna call you out on it. No exceptions. If anything you should be happy others are willing to discuss it with you rather than write you off as unsalvageable or incorrigible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There there pet. This discussion really hasn't made me happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's called guilt and shame.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not surprised you feel that way, but surprised you admit it. You doing ok bud?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This discussion really hasn’t made me happy.

That’s called guilt and shame.

I know you are, but what am I?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On the flipside the assumption that your culture is the correct way is pretty xenophobic and racist in its own way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah and which culture is that?

I've done nothing but make logical arguments here while you deflect and project.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But the natural production of pigment in response to sunlight isn't nearly comparable to chemically changing tones or caking on makeup to hide your ethnicity.

My asian "whitening creams" are called "brightening creams" in the West. They remove redness. They don't chemically alter your ethnicity.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You sound like an a-hole. How does it feel to be bluntly communicated with?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I attacked their stance, you attacked my person. I feel very superior as a result.