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[ā€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol samharris.org

What kind of pretentious loser names an opinion blog site after himself, and bestows a ".org" at the end

The more I read this crap the more obvious it is this bullshit article relies on lengthy annoying paragraphs that no one wants to read and a ".org" at the end to sound more official

Myth #1: Israel is guilty of ā€œgenocideā€ in Gaza.

The term ā€œgenocideā€ has a clear meaningā€”itā€™s the destruction or attempted destruction of a whole people.

Yes , 95% of people starving in the world were in Gaza when Israel chose to withhold aid to them. That is the attempted destruction of a whole people

Myth #2: International Humanitarian Law Requires that Israelā€™s response to Palestinian aggression be ā€œproportional.ā€

I'm as anti Israel as it gets, and I've never heard this argument that you're legally bound to proportional, sounds like this author really likes the title of the blog counting up to 5.

That said, there are tons of MORAL arguments against disproportionately killing civilians, but the only legal one that comes to mind is when Israel evacuated Gazans to a region in the south, then bombed that region with white phosphorus https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-white-phosphorous-gaza-palestinians-amnesty-hrw-reports/

Myth #3: The Jews Are Colonizers and the Palestinians are Indigenous People.

Not the Jews, but, the Israelis are colonizers. Biblically they were a nomadic war faring tribe. They never were a country. The west created a colony to project power in the middle east because they had no other allies there. Israel is a country in a region called Palestine. Palestinians never formed a government that resembled something the west could do business with

In colonialism, the colony has superior technology. The middle east just industrialized, how the hell could Palestinians have been anything but natives the last few thousand years

Myth #4: The atrocities committed by Hamas (and over one thousand Palestinian civilians) on October 7th were a legitimate response to oppression.

Israel left Gaza in 2005ā€”forcibly removing thousands of its own citizensā€”and billions of dollars in international aid have since been spent there. So the ā€œoppressionā€ of the Palestinians in Gazaā€”by Israelā€”is at least debatable.

This is so fucking stupid I'm just going to leave this here. "Oppression" lmao, why the air quotes? Being born in a ghetto doesn't count as being oppressed?

Myth #5: The two sides in this conflict are equally civilized, equally entitled to respect, and equally worth protecting.

I actually agree with this. You can't compare violence between two groups when one group (Israel) is occupying the other (Palestine). The violence from Palestinians against Israel is like violence from black people to the police. It's not good, but it's not the same. One group is oppressed and radicalized from that, the other group is systematically oppressing the other

[ā€“] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Myth #1: Israel is guilty of ā€œgenocideā€ in Gaza.

The term ā€œgenocideā€ has a clear meaningā€”itā€™s the destruction or attempted destruction of a whole people.

Yes , 95% of people starving in the world were in Gaza when Israel chose to withhold aid to them. That is the attempted destruction of a whole people

Not sure why you are debating semantics here, as that statement is just straight up wrong, which can be easily confirmed by taking a single look at article 2 of the Genocide Convention (emphasis mine):

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such