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Sudo is coming to Windows 11 (devblogs.microsoft.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by starman to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 182 points 9 months ago (8 children)

"Let's give our new command line app the same name as a popular linux command even though it's not the same app and behaves differently. I'm sure our users would appreciate it when they have problem with the app and trying to search the solution later."

[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be consistent with Powershell's command structure, they should call it "Get-Access" or something similar...

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Given the horrible verbosity of PS utils, I'd expect they just abandon subtlety and call it Substitute-User-Do-Operation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure it's just Verb-Noun, I don't think I've seen the multi-hyphen o es your reference

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can we truncate it to Get-Ass?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

> Set-Alias -Name Get-Ass -Value Get-Access
> Get-Ass
Get-Access : Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x00000000 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That'd like up with their Xbox naming scheme. XbOne, XSeX, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nah that is too unrealistic

[–] starman 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

"Because we are Microsoft, the company known for giving its products perfectly reasonable and not confusing names"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sentinel, Defender (not the AV, lol), Entra. I hear these daily in meetings and don't know what the hell they are. (Not my job)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sentinel is MS's SEIM product, defender is likely people referring to their paid av offering, Entra is what they renamed AzureAD recently which is their identity management platform. Not sure why they renamed the last one azureAD was a good name for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Maybe because they were getting tired of hearing from admins frustrated that Azure AD still doesn't have full feature parity with "normal" AD? Now it's clearly a separate product at least.

[–] Deebster 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think Google's the worst for this. Examples such as the browser Chrome, when browser chrome has been a thing for a long time. Go, a very common verb and keyword and also now a programming language. Not to be confused with their Go Links, which was a URL shortener. And then there's all the ones they either rebrand or retire and/or replace.

Perhaps they want confusing names because they think other search engines can't handle the ambiguity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

To be honest, other programming languages aren't named any better

Pascal is just a common name, Rust is a common noun, Java is an island which you cannot find by searching for just its name, Python's a snake, C# is a musical note and C is just a letter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

afaik they also alias common linux/gnu commands like curl.. but the syntax isnt like curl at all

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

I definitely spent a frustrated 45 minutes trying to figure out why curl wasn't working when it was supposed to be supported in PowerShell.

then I hit tab a couple of times and noticed curl.exe was an option, that works exactly the same as I had expected with original syntax.

they do this to a lot of things though a lot of common commands end up being an alias to a powershell command with a specific option set that doesn't always line up

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder which sudo Bing will default to find 🤔

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Phil Collins, probably.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They’ve had a real problem with names recently. I wonder if the laid all the creative people off in that company. Miss me with this “new outlook” “new teams” “teams for work and school” just think of a new name for each app for the love of god…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Not a new problem. Many years ago they released a server app to download and deploy updates to a businesses computers. They called it Windows Update Service, or WUS. A bit later they changed the name to Windows Server Update Service (WSUS). The FAQ on the name change noted the old name “did not accurately reflect the value of the software”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Xitter's Grok.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

MS, seeing G green-light the .zip TLD: hold my beer