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What the fuck is the 'authentic experience' of a chicken nugget that seitan is incapable of replicating, anyways? Also the burger patties I ate in school as a cringe baby carnist were 60% TVP soy to begin with, so if anything I'm being even more honest with my frozen slabs now

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

hey you want to eat some imitation baby? It tastes just like the real thing!

That’s how you sound

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That's just moralizing for no reason. Meat eating has been a part of most of the world's cuisines for a very long time, so having substitutes to help more people transition is a very good idea. This point has been repeated a ton of times, but many people are ND and can't change their habits very easily, or have texture / taste sensitivities

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

sure, but the point stands. for a lot of us, the idea of eating animals is gross. it is a viscerally disgusting thing. we don't eat animals not only because it is wrong but also because it is disgusting. the idea of eating stuff that is intended to be as close as possible to something disgusting is not appealing in the slightest.

and the comment is not "moralizing." no one is saying it would be evil to eat imitation baby. it's just ... why would you want to?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

we don't eat animals not only because it is wrong but also because it is disgusting

I don't eat animals because it's wrong. They tasted great to me on the day I stopped. It's true that my taste has changed as a consequence of not eating animals - after a restaurant miscommunication I discovered that butter tastes weird now - but focusing on that is counterproductive for external messaging. Carnists eat flesh and think it tastes good. You can't convince them that it tastes gross and trying to do that will have you dismissed as a picky eater.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

but focusing on that is counterproductive for external messaging.

what fucking external messaging this is [email protected], an explicitly vegan forum where carnists aren't allowed to post on a website where being anti-vegan is explicitly against the rules. this is internal chatter, not external messaging. we're not talking to carnists, we're talking to each other. stop jumping down people's throats for speaking as though carnist brain is not the default

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