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Because Boeing were on such a good streak already...

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

How is this Boeings issue? This is a maintenance problem with the airline. Tires get replaced by maintenance staff. That plane isn’t brand new.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Well, if proper maintenance was done and the part still failed due to a design or quality issue that was improperly QC’d (missed, skipped, etc) then yeah it could be Boeings fault.

They’re getting extra scrutiny right now because of all the incidents recently, and all the anecdotal stories of former employees talking about how a bunch of suits are destroying it from the inside to make a quick buck.

And frankly, they fucking deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure, but the 757 is a 40 year old design that has been out of production for 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And frankly, they fucking deserve it.

Except the suits aren't going to be the ones hurt by the company going down in flames.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

It never is, but it prevents them from continuing to build new planes were profit has priority over security and "accidentally" killing 100s of people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Boeing: "We hear your concerns. We plan to squash problems by firing all the employees who raised problems."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Careful. Boeing already tried the “but it’s not our job” excuse on a few major incidences with an executive now locked behind bars after pushing bribes to cover it up . They’d be best backing off on taking an attitude about where to assign blame. They got a lot of red spots that will never come out.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

If I recall correctly, the aircraft manufacturer writes the maintenance guidelines.

This could be a Boeing issue, if it's due to something that happened at the time the aircraft was built, or due to a foreseeable gap in the maintenance guidelines.

It could be a Delta issue, if they weren't following the maintenance guidelines, or a maintenance contractor working for them wasn't following them and they didn't catch it.

It could also have been (very small but nonzero chance) the result of physical trauma to the plane that wasn't foreseen, back in the 1990s when it was built, as something that might cause an issue of this magnitude. I haven't yet seen any information on whether this particular aircraft has a history of hard landings or running over debris on the runway. Freak accidents do happen.

All of those have precedents in aviation history.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

I remember watching this PBS Frontline segment on plane maintenance 10 years or so ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw0b020OFj4

I imagine we still have those problems and the recent news of counterfeit parts entering the market is scary.

Good thing these recent incidents ended up with no serious injuries or death. Perhaps this timing is good in some really weird way as the Supreme Court starts considering powers of regulatory agencies and concerns around government funding to highlight the importance and need for this government role.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think the first two repliers have never heard of Ockham's razor. I mean a micro meteorite could have struck some part of the wheel and knocked it off too, but probably not. Though that would be boeing's fault to, because they didn't make it micro meteorite tolerant.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It can be Occam or Ockham. It's named after William of Ockham, but it was the fashion at that time for scholars to "Latinise" their names, hence the alternative spelling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Truly one of the english language moments of all time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago