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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's so shit that we don't have an honest, genuine opposition. I'm a big fat leftie (love my greens and socialists) and it scares me that the opposition only cares about feeding their personal coffers and pandering to right-wing extremists, rather than voicing valid criticisms of our current government.

The fact that Labor, at federal and state levels, can go relatively unchecked is frightening.

The Liberals ought to change their name at this point, they're anything but liberal by 2023 standards

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I hate that everyone involved in politics seems to be primarily focused on it as a competition or game, where it is all about winning and beating the oposition. The focus should be on building a shared society, and to do that people need to be able to work together, to listen, learn, compromise and change. Instead we have a bunch of people focused on petty arguments and insults, all aimed at tearing someone else down to improve their own relative position with little regard to society as a whole.

Edit: I include the media here, as the way they report on politics is a large part of this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The thing I hate about politics is that anyone who wants to be a politician is not the type of people who should be a politician, the ones who are good, society focused people will never be politicians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel this. Politics should always be about how to advance society, how we as a nation should be better. But you've got all these parties that want to fuck over anyone who doesn't have a big fat bank account (or assets or whatever) and would rather see a select few survive rather than the majority.

Though apparently each generation is getting more and more progressive, hopefully that'll help Libs-Nationals and every other centre-right to alt-right parties die a faster death. So we can focus on parties who want to progress society to a better future. That way we can actually focus on policies rather than who has the better attack ads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Each generation is becoming more progressive because the shift towards conservatism is less about age and more about the accumulation of wealth. In the past as people got older they tended to accumulate wealth, but as the policies of the last few decades have been designed to increase inequality and redistribute more wealth to the already wealthy instead of to those with less that shift to conservatism has also been reduced. Unfortunately as governments have also been working towards redistributing power to the wealthy I'm not sure the shift in politics within the general population will help.