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Flying the Pride flag is a gateway to ISIS, a Connecticut official claims as town passes ban (www.advocate.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A Connecticut town council voted to ban the LGBTQ+ pride flag in government buildings almost immediately after coming under Republican control.

The Enfield Town Council voted in a meeting Monday to ban all flags from flying at government buildings save for the United States, Connecticut state, and military flags. The new policy, which went through with a vote of 6-5, replaces a 2022 policy that allowed the rainbow flag to fly during Pride Month in June.

While some the council members pushing the policy claimed to do so as a way to remain "neutral," Councilor At-Large Gina Cekala, who voted against the measure, accused them of directly targeting the LGBTQ+ community and Pride flag.

“I think the real reason is you don’t want that Pride flag up on this town hall,” she said, “which is absolutely disgusting."

Tom Tyler, the interim town attorney, claimed at one point that if the the Pride flag was allowed to be flown, “ISIS could come in and want to display one, the IRA…basically anybody. You’d have to be content neutral and let everybody." He then went off-topic to accuse schools of trying to indoctrinate students with “transgender ideology.”

The decision came as a betrayal to many of the town's residents, including Brandon Jewell of PFLAG Enfield, who noted that two of the Republicans voting to ban flags previously voted in favor of the 2022 policy that allowed the Pride displays.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm figuring out how you come with these words together. I don't know. It's a new level of intellectual gymnastics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It's just an excuse to ban LGBTQ+ expression, that's all, and the bigots know it'll work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's really easy if you rtfa

Tom Tyler, the interim town attorney, claimed at one point that if the the Pride flag was allowed to be flown, “ISIS could come in and want to display one, the IRA…basically anybody. You’d have to be content neutral and let everybody."

I don't agree with him in the slightest, but it's not like he's saying that being gay makes you a terrorist or something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The ideologies of terrorist organizations are incompatible with the U.S. Constitution, the ideology of the Pride Flag is not. His logic is flawed. And no, there isn’t any room for “someone else’s freedom fighter” etc. under the Constitution. The law has room for interpretation, but not to the degree that Tyler is arguing that it does. Secondly, debates on hypothetical scenarios have no bearings on the law or how it’s applied. This is why that town clerk who refused a marriage license has to pay a fine now. The town should be sued to allow flying the Pride Flag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

100% agreed. I'm just saying, it's just flawed logic. Well, really it's homophobia, but the claim that allowing one flag means you have to allow all flags is just flawed logic, not mental gymnastics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

debates on hypothetical scenarios have no bearings on the law or how it’s applied

This isn't true though, tons of hypotheticals showing up in and being relevant to the outcome of court decisions. Not sure the general "compatibility" of an ideology to the constitution is very relevant here either since afaik there isn't anything in there limiting what flags local governments can fly at government buildings, sounds like the deciding factor is whether the town council votes to allow a particular flag. Which would mean that what this guy is saying doesn't make sense either, if ISIS got elected in that town they could vote to put their flag up regardless of the previous policy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

To be clear, I meant hypotheticals debated outside of the courtrooms have no bearing.