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HP sued (again) for blocking third-party ink from printers, accused of monopoly (arstechnica.com)
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HP sued (again) for blocking third-party ink from printers, accused of monopoly::Suit seeks injunction blocking HP from bricking printers using third-party ink.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Tesla did that essentially with their proprietary charging. Then they essentially strongarmed other companies into adopting their standard.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Only in the us afaik. In the eu this didnt fly. We use menekes type 2 and ccs2, including all teslas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that their standard was objectively better than alternatives, so that was a net positive?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

There are upsides and downsides to it vs other standards, but the main point was that it's a closed standard that no one else was allowed to use (until recently), and so Tesla drivers had to go to Tesla charging stations, not the ones run by other companies or individuals

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

that's not true, there's been adapters for Tesla drivers to visit other charging stations for a long time now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The standard for Tesla chargers wasn't even released until November 2022, so up to that point it wasn't possible for other people or organizations to build Tesla chargers. Tesla (so far as I can tell from my research) released the first official adapters in mid-late 2022, so until that point it wasn't possible to use other chargers as a Tesla owner without using aftermarket reverse-engineered adapters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

For sure, not defending the road to get here, just acknowledging that in this case it worked out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate to side with ElMo, but didn't that happen because they kick started the EV car wave? And apparently their solution was also the better option, or something to that effect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think Nikolai Tesla did that a really long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He made electric cars?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, and cell phones and long-range wireless charging.