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What about people that actually want their stuff to work?
Use Linux Mint.
Not 100% compatible with everything i use. I understand that advice works for most though. Or Iβve been told that at least.
What isn't it compatible with? All these people making baseless complaints about Linux driving me crazy. Most people are just too lazy to Google an error code. I'm convinced there are hidden Windows shills in the fediverse like undercover Russian spys.
Seriously people act like googling an error is the end of the world AND windows never ever makes a user troubleshoot. Like dude windows constantly fucks up and you gotta figure shit out
Honestly, I don't even know when I had a windows problem.
I use Windows, Linux and MacOS regularly and I have zero problems with windows.
Lol, are you serious? Any Adobe software, Microsoft Office, plenty of games (especially those that rely on anticheat software). That's everything that comes to mind right away, there's definitely more than that when it comes to specialized software. And no need to reply with "but there are good alternatives/use an older version", this is software that is required for work and it's industry standard for a reason.
In my last couple of jobs I've found that most of the software required for work is either available as a web app or runs just fine on Linux. There have only been a handful of users needing Windows to do their jobs. It all depends on what your role is.
Industry standard so you can use Windows on a work computer and be free to use Linux at home.
I've been doing that for more than half a decade now, but the point still stands: the claim that Linux is compatible with everything is just not true, and while there are plenty of people for whom it will work perfectly fine, there are also lots of situations in which it is not a feasible solution.
I do not see myself forced to use Windows at home because I really am not. I can use alternative software, not play games with anticheat rootkits and pirate DRM media. I agree that there are tradeoffs, but I am under no threat of losing the roof over my head, so I think it to be very much feasible. Though the point of my comment was to point out (pun intended) that separating work and personal computing is actually a good thing for many reasons, one of which that you can probably use Linux.
That's fine. I understand there is software that Linux doesn't have specifically. That is basically a chicken an egg problem. I think everyone can agree that we'd rather have a FOSS option and not pay adobe anymore.
The point I'm making is if you're going to come on here and say Linux ain't working at least give specific examples. Don't just say it doesn't work because it does work and there is an alternative to everything whether you want to use it or not is a different discussion.
Also , lets hope that the ARM platform is going to bridge this gap. I could be wrong on this but it seems like now that MacOS runs on ARM then we should see a lot more cross compatibility on Linux based ARM systems in the future. (Anyone wanna speculate on when ARM will kill x86, if ever)?
I don't agree with your Microsoft shills comment but, I do agree with the statement that a lot of the "don't use Unix" posts are either people who haven't actually tried it/echo chambering it or classic cases of "help I've tried nothing and I've run out of ideas". You never see the same comments saying "Don't use Mac" despite that MacOS is based off the same system and shares almost all of the points stated.
As someone who actually jumps between windows and Mint, I can say that for the everyday person and even gamers nowadays it's for the most part of seamless transition. LibreOffice is basically a 1:1 copy of MS office and I find my Mint system lightyears more stable then my windows 10 system. For gaming Steam litterally does everything for you now, you don't even have to mess with wine manually anymore which was my biggest gripe. The only games I have found to not work are games that the devs for some reason decided to intentionally disable support for (talking about you Epic Studios and Roblox). I plan to fully nuke my Windows 10 install when Windows 11 is required in favor of just using a Mint install exclusively, I just lack the energy to do that change when I have a functional system still.
I fully agree with everything you said. Especially the Windows 10 transition. I'm trying to never go Windows 11.
There was a cross post to Linux Lemmy a while ago from Mastodon claiming 'WiNdOwZ jUsT wOrKs" and Linux has too many issues with similarly no specific critique or shown effort of trying absolutely anything. And it just drives me crazy.
Microsoft is absolutely thrilled that we won't troubleshoot anything no matter how small because they like our data.
If I have to google an error code the OS already fucked up.
It's a good thing users never have to troubleshoot windows then
No, buying used chromebooks from sketchy Craigslist ads with the pickup location being a van down by the river is actually cheaper and easier.
man you are going to /hate/ windows then lol, the blue screen doesn't even give an error code anymore, just a "oops something went wrong" screen.
I like that, its exactly what it says on the tin. Something did indeed go wrong. When I get a blue screen, I didn't , I got an error that lead to a crash...also known as something going wrong.
People may not like it, but the closer a machine is to communicating in a human like manner the better it is.
And everyone who is tasked with fixing your constantly crashing shit doesn't like that, because it gives precisely zero actionable information with which to prevent future crashes. I may as well pull out my tarot deck to diagnose your problem. It's worse than useless, it's actively insulting.
That would be cool, actually. Venus is in retrograde therefore we get the error card of the inverted cups.
All computers communicate like humans. They are designed and built by humans after all and behave exactly as instructed, which is the origin of bugs and crashes. What you are referring to is talking in a dumbed down fashion so that you do not need to bother yourself. I guess many non-English speakers are not talking in a human manner in your opinion as well?
not until the admech gets invented. Donβt have implanted speakers and screech out binary? Congrats, human language.
Renderman, c4D, certain Maya extensions and addons, Nuke and Houdini cant run on linux at all, many indie 3D softwares wont even allow you to install on linux, Marvelous designer wont work, and a shit ton of rendering engines wont work either, the insufferable people here are linux nerds yelling at everyone theyre stupid for using something convenient
Does not run Creo. Does not run DCS. Does not run Destiny 2. These are most of what I do that needs a useful computer versus just a ipad or something. Therefore, a Linux PC would only be useful for blender and firefox. Only being able to use 40% of programs means a Linux PC is basically e waste already.
They already started using Linux.