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This is your annual reminder to do a snapshot (timeshift or whatever you prefer) before doing relatively minor changes to your system.

I was supposed to be in bed now, but instead I am stuck troubleshooting xorg refusing to start after an apt-get dist-upgrade.

And as far as friendly reminders go, I should've given myself an unfriendly reminder beforehand, as it's not the first time....

UPDATE: Fuck nvidia 545. All my homies hate nvidia 545. 535 4 lyf!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except that time a year and a bit ago where an Arch update broke Grub for a huge number of users.

No distro is immune to breakage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And a filesystem snapshotting tool would help you restore bootloader how?...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you agree, Arch can also break by updating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Of course it can. And your PC can also fall off the desk. I'm saying a snapshot tool is a really poor solution for distro problems, it's really a bandaid for a problem that shouldn't exist.

Use a decent distro, take proper backups, and use snapshots for what they were intended — recovering small mistakes with personal files, not for system maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Use a decent distro

That's the point -- your claim about deb-based distros is just anecdotal.

The example here is Nvidia updates borking the system. I've have that happen to me numerous times on Arch-based systems.

I've run deb-based distros on some boxes over years of updates with no issues. On the other hand I've had updates cause breakages on Arch-based systems pretty much every time I've run them.

Which is to say anecdotes are useless, updates can break systems, and being able to immediately roll back to a working system and deal with updating later is a simple, nice thing to have with no downsides.