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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

remember every time they quote monetary values for shoplifted goods increasing, it's inflation. the cost of the goods went up, the amount of shoplifting is pretty much stable.

but they get to make a big fuss about it being "on the rise" instead of dealing with inflation and cost of living issues. because Tories are allergic to doing anything.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, I see a lot more shoplifting with my own two eyes, really seems like it’s increased over the past few years.

My local high street has loads of the little shops like Sainsury’s local, co-op, etc. 10 years I’ve been using these shops, and suddenly all of them have gotten security guards in a 6 month period.

It’s crazy to see people run in, grab all they can in their arms and then sprint out. They can get pretty violent with the staff as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is a good jumping off point to talk about observer biases. Because statistics don't back up what you are describing at all, but you obviously feel this way.

There's a lot of observer biases, but in this case, it's likely that because it's in the news, you are noticing things more. Your brain is looking out for things. I've seen security guards come and go from shops many many times over the past few decades, at times of plenty and times of less. But because the government is out here trying to distract you, your brain is focused on that.

[–] Senal 2 points 8 months ago

citation? (the stats, not the wiki for observer bias)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nah, I’ve seen a shop locking their doors and letting people in one by one because they’re getting so much stuff stolen. I’ve never seen that before, and I see stuff being stolen right in front of me every other week now.

I’m willing to accept I’m seeing this happen a disproportionate number of times if the statistics don’t back it up, but it must be a local problem if it’s not effecting other parts of the country.

Also, maybe try being a little less condescending next time…