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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's just a pronoun to address the Collective

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Chat are idiots and can't be trusted

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Chat will be assimilated. Resischat is futile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

pepehands is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

But the collective that excludes yourself. It’s like a “we without me”, which is also not the plural you.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Uhm acktually that's two words joined together 🤓

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Exclusive we is actually found in many languages, but usually it's the listener who is excluded. Malay kita "we" includes the listener, kami excludes the listener.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't spanish have this? I think it is nosotros and vosotros?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Yes we have vosotros (in Spain) or ustedes (in the rest of the Spanish-speaking world -can't speak for Equatorial Guinea though). But we don't call it a 4th person pronoun. It's just the plural form of the 2nd person pronoun:

1st singular: I / yo

1st plural: we / nosotros

2nd singular: you / tú, vos, usted if you wanna be formal

2nd plural: plural you, y'all / ustedes, vosotros

3rd singular: she, he, singular they / ella, él, elle (that last one mostly used among the young queer/progressive community in some countries)

3rd plural: they / ellos, ellas, elles (same above)

Don't know what a 4th person pronoun would be. And I'm a Spanish teacher in South America lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Just don't say vosotros in Mexico or they'll think you're a dork

[–] sukhmel 2 points 11 months ago

Otoh, in Spain if you say Usted or Ustedes they'll think you're a dork

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

We must seize the means of production, chat!