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I'll watch this later when I have enough time. But its important to note that Elon Musk's aura of invincibility / charity has been pierced, and now big-name talk shows like John Oliver feel safe to actually talk about Musk's issues now.

I certainly don't always agree with John Oliver, but this is a huge step forward for the mainstream media to finally start recognizing the Musk problem.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm actually pleased with it.

Again, I don't agree with all of it. In fact, the SpaceX stuff could have easily segue into the ESGHound issues. IE: The old lady's house who is within a few miles of there because SpaceX rockets are far too large for the land allocated (ex: wildlife sanctuary with dozens of endangered creatures + even humans living close enough to the launch site who have been filing noise complaints).

Elon Musk has stomped over the little people so incredibly that there's no comparison. Somehow, I do think he's gone above-and-beyond the typical billionaire in terms of callousness to little people... while John Oliver is kind-of just trying to sell it as typical billionaire crap. No man, its much worse.


Still, this is the first major talk show that has actually talked about the Elon Musk problem. Taking a hard look at something that clearly has been getting worse over the past year (especially). Sure, we at RealTesla have known about this for nearly the past decade and know far worse examples of everything here (Really? OSHA complaints are the worst John Oliver could come up with at the Gigafactory? Nothing about the "Plantation" suit that Tesla just lost?). But its enough to get people's eyes open to the real harm Elon Musk is doing, and this is all a good conversation starter.

Our arguments here at RealTesla are much better / more appreciated thanks to John Oliver's video. So yes, its ultimately net good (as this John Oliver video sometimes puts Elon Musk, lol).

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I certainly understand that even if they knew all of the Musk BS and scams, they need to ease the general public that does know who Musk is into realizing he's a dipshit. You can't just come over the top rope and say this guy that's in the press all the time is a moron and here's 30 minutes describing why. So, choosing their battles no doubt.

I liked the segment as a whole, as you can see from the fact I only had two criticisms of it. So I'm not really saying I didn't like it, just that it could have been more researched. I'm just disappointed that they repeat the same musk lies we continuously see repeated. It lends them credence, and as you see in the comments below people completely believe that SpaceX is the first commercial space company, first reusable rocket, first vertical landing rocket, all the bullshit we know FOR. A. FACT. is a lie. But because Musk's marketing machine makes people repeat it online, these people fall for it not realizing what they're doing.

I'm very happy that Rolling Stone, WaPo, NY Times, and Last Week Tonight are exposing Musk for the liar he is. And I have no doubt this is the first of many segments we'll see over the next several years exposing fraud, deceptive practices, bilking world governments out of untold billions, and who knows what else.