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Data poisoning: how artists are sabotaging AI to take revenge on image generators::As AI developers indiscriminately suck up online content to train their models, artists are seeking ways to fight back.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Considering most models can spit out training data, that’s not a true statement. Training data may not be explicitly saved, but it can be retrieved from these models.

Existing copyright law can’t be applied here because it doesn’t cover something like this.

It 100% should be a copyright infringement for every image generated using the stolen work of others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can get it to spit out something very close, maybe even exact depending on how much of your art was used in the training (Because that would make your style influence the weights and model more)

But that's no different than me tracing your art or taking samples of your art to someone else and paying them to make an exact copy, in that case that specific output is a copyright violation. Just because it can do that, doesn't mean every output is suddenly a copyright violation.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

However since it’s required to use all of the illegally obtained and in-licensed work to create it, it is a copyright violation, just as tracing over something would be. Again, existing copyright law cannot be applied here because this technology works in a vastly different way than a human artist.

A hard line has to be made that will protect artists. I’d prefer it go even farther in protecting individual copyright while weakening overall copyright for corporate owners.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

illegally obtained [...] work

It what jurisdiction is it illegal?

And is "obtained" even the right word?...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There’s currently multiple lawsuits in the courts to decide just that.

If they’re scraping the internet to add to a database of training data, I’d consider that obtaining and storing the work.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Except they're not storing the work. They store information about the work.