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A new Type of Mastodon Signup that gives people a sense of Agency (fungiverse.wordpress.com)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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TL;DR: The current Mastodon-signup is only removing the confusion of users on first glance, because it either hides the server-choice altogether, or leaves them with a choice that is impossible to make at this point of their Mastodon-journey. Instead, it should introduce them to decentrality on a lower scale, with a handful of handpicked servers to choose from, such that the decision makes sense to them and shows them the merits and fun of the concept instead of scaring them away. Ideal would be to give them a sense of agency. Then, chances are higher that they consider migrating again in the future and eventually internalize it as a permanent option of the digital world.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm curious about the state of account migrations right now. Ideally it should be super easy and it should strengthen the Fediverse if people can hope platforms with ease when an admin isn't behaving as they should.

One technical challenge might be deletion

Admins need to be able to delete or quarantine harmful / illegal content
You can't move instances if an admin suddenly comes along and deletes everything

Could on-device backups be a thing? The collective userbase takes up a lot of storage, but each individual person probably doesn't upload more than their phone can store. It might also incentivize them to not spam large files

[–] starman 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Account migration and backup are features of lemmy v0.19

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3976

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I think account migration will have to come in two waves. It would be far easier to migrate accounts that are federated. That should be as simple as name swapping comments and posts and assigning them to the opposite servers while handing over user data.

The hard part is with servers who do not federate. Two solutions exist. One would have a data hop. It’s very likely that defederated servers would contain some link somewhere between federated servers. So the original server would pass data through one or two other servers to get to your new destination server that otherwise wouldn’t receive that data.

The other solution involves allowing a user to download their content with a key from the server and then present that to the new server. That data may need to be encrypted or have verification somehow to prevent tampering before reuploading it.

Any of these solutions will probably require manually approving and sorting through of data. The good news is that you can make requirements to say that users should have so many upvotes or whatever to receive a transfer to your platform. So their backup of data can sit still until you’re deemed worthy of transfer.

I’d say that data backups on your phone should definitely be an option regardless.