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[–] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Article 7 suspends their voting rights. Requires unanimity of all other EU members.

It's the closest EU charter allows to evicting a member state. It effectively suspends the state's membership.

Quite frankly the should have. Orban is a blatantly corrupt Putin lapdog who has been siphoning EU funds for years into his own pocket and that of his cronies.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hungary used to have a mutual defence pact with PiS-era Poland that scuppered any attempts by the EU to discipline either country. Not that PiS are no longer in power in Poland, hasn’t Fico’s Slovakia stepped into the role?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope, because Orban's party denies the legitimacy of Slovakia as an independent state via their grievance culture over the Treaty of Trianon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Fico and other similar politicians are still great friends with orban. Even the Slovak National Party, which is ironic because they were incredibly anti-hungrian bck in the day. But sharing dream of totalitarian country unites.

I bet Putin would lovento get us back into Russian sphere of influence as well and yet Fico and co. still lick his boots.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have we ever been that close to taking them? I'm assuming he was warned and informed that next time it will happen.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, but until now, Poland and Hungary protected each other. Things might change now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Slovakia and The Netherlands are the new wild cards. We’ll see how things shake out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Slovakia, I don't know, but the Netherlands not really. The one party that might want to veto it, while the biggest in parliament, only ("only") got 20% of the votes. If they get to govern (which is not set in stone yet), they'll have to do so in a coalition with other parties who would not let that happen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And Italy, why are we left out? 🀌🀌🀌 Italy is part of the "family" too, with the Nederlands, Slovakia, Hungary.. and the UK of course!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

The UK isn't in any EU discussions any more...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My impression of Meloni is that she values the EU?

Edit: not melon lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She does, she isn't doing anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I get that people outside Italy were worried when she was elected (I was too) but I've not seen any real controversial EU policy from her government. That's from outside though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

She immediately reassured european partners, also stood with Ukraine since day one: not obviois on that side of the parliament. So yeah, could have been worse..