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• Steve Jobs faked full signal strength and swapped devices during the first iPhone demo due to fragile prototypes and bug-riddled software.

• Engineers got drunk during the presentation to calm their nerves.

• Despite the challenges, Jobs successfully completed the 90-minute demonstration without any noticeable issues.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Not saying all these necessarily apply to Steve jobs but I really hate how capitalism gratifies liars, fakers, cheaters, egomaniacs, narcissists, psychopaths and selfish exploiters in general.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You say that like there’s a single system in the history of the world which doesn’t. Capitalism isn’t novel with regard to humans taking advantage of one another.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The difference is that in other systems, when people behave like that, it's then gaming the system. Capitalism is the only system that incentivizes it in rewards it directly, As a matter of principle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It doesn't reward it anymore than even local government control over resources. You act like nobody has ever tried to get out of a speeding ticket or fake their way to impress their lead.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism incentivizes producing value

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It incentivises producing a perceived value. So faking value works just as well as providing real value

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why you are down voted. Marx argues that the secret to value is human labor, and capitalists exploit labor to capture surplus value.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Progress requires human labor. It doesn't matter what government or ideology you use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think some folks, especially of the marxist POV, argue that labor is the work that you sell to make money. Progress and government require work. It's not necessarily labor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ever heard of Lysenko? The con artists and their bullshit are everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Very interesting, thank you for the hint. However, I would argue that Lysenko(ism) being successful in socialist Russia was an unintended result of authoritarian Idiocracy, while in capitalism the systematic promotion of con artists is a "feature". Sorry Adam Smith but you were quite naïve ...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You think that's limited to capitalism?

Edit. Not sure why downvoted. But also, despite the controlled nature of the demo, didn't apple kind of deliver on the marketing to an acceptable degree?

Also, think of the self proclaimed communist leaders projecting how they solve all society's problems, or will do so, without any proof of concept.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, it's not limited to capitalism of course but it's especially rewarded in capitalism. I did not downvote though, in fact I upvoted because your comment is fine to me and it's a legitimate question.