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I lost a friend to ket. He was partying with bad people, he was sick, choked on his vomit and they stole his stuff / left him to die.
Ketamine is a very interesting ride, and has wonderful potential as an antidepressant, but for the love of yourself (and my badly missed friend, John the magic man), PLEASE have someone compus mentus watching over you while you experience it, if you choose to do so.
Also strongly recommend you DO NOT mix with alcohol.
And always review information on erowid’s website before using any drug
Oh erowid…. Brings me back to college
Erowid is a brilliant resource!
Ketamine also should not be used in people with high blood pressure as it may further increase it and heart rates to dangerous levels.
Hot tubs increase heart rate as well however the blood pressure is lowered.
Oh yah, he had heart disease which is a no go with hot tubs.
Not to mention Buprenorphine on top of the ketamine which is bad news with a hot tub.
Meh, I've been on bupe for 4 years and love hot baths and such, it's not that big of a deal. His previous issues were more of a problem than that. Buprenorphine is somewhat of a miracle drug for those of us who have been trying to battle opiate addiction. It has very very little side effects and does nothing more than stop the craving and make someone like myself feel like a normal person instead of like the fucking junkie that I am (was).
Not denying that it has depressive effects on respiratory and other systems. But if you're not abusing other drugs while using it, there's really not any problem with that.
I'm on bupe as well, but both together is a bad news with the hot water. It increases the chance to sleep, and falling asleep in a hot tub will make you drown.
Add to his known addictive personality that he has had a problem with for decades, he shouldn't have been on that combination.
I personally hate bupe because it rarely works on my chronic pain I've had for the last 20 years. The media blew up the legal fentanyl patches I safely took almost 10 years ago that gave me a normal life. This will be just another excuse to restrict medication that works. A buddy of mine has stopped his suicidal issues because of ketamine therapy.
What about taking ketamine at the end of a 3 day meth binge to take the edge off the come down?
Sounds sensible
Benzos are a better choice, not sure why you'd want to end the fun after only three days though.
They gave me ketamine the last time I was in the hospital for pain so they could knock me out.
It was the single worst experience of my life, even worse than the injury I was being knocked out for. I was semi conscious the entire time, but I couldn't feel or hear anything. I just knew people were all around me doing something. It feels like I was dead for a while. I have very few memories from the time they first gave it to me in the ambulance to the time I woke up at home the next day.
Fucking awful experience all around. Next time I was in the hospital for an unrelated condition I told them I'd rather have zero pain medicine than even a tiny amount of ketamine
Low dose ketamine is drastically different than the dosage used to sedate someone
They gave me low dose in the ambulance. While it was a decent high, I still had the same memory issues (which I always have while high, but at least I can normally remember something)
A recreational dose is far lower than what a medical professional would give you. The intentions are different.
Good to know, especially since the ambulance really didn't give me much.
I'm still gonna pass on it though cause that was such an awful experience and I'd much rather just take an edible
I don't understand why this is bad?
I'm reading this like you're unhappy you don't remember the pain? And you want pain?
Or is this sarcasm?
No, it's basically an entire day of my life that I know happened but I can't remember any specific details of. I know I went through insane amounts of physical and emotional trauma (I laid there in pain for no less than 8 hours because it was literally the same week COVID started), and not being able to remember it at all is preventing me from moving on or healing.
Idk if it's just a me thing, but I hate not remembering entire large sections of time. After the first time I got black out drunk I didn't drink alcohol for almost 2 years
Do you know why they gave you ketamine instead of something more standard like morphine?
Absolutely no idea. The other hospital I mentioned was confused as to why they did it as well.
Doesn't surprise me at all!
The groups of 'friends' that do shit like ketamine are almost always scumbags just keeping each other down.
I think you and I had very different experiences! While ket abuse can defo lead to paranoia and becoming more insular, in my circles it was taken at hard house / trance events or after parties. Lots of silliness and fun times.
Unfortunately for my friend, he lived on his own in Manchester and fell in with a rough crowd after moving to Salford :'(