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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I lost a friend to ket. He was partying with bad people, he was sick, choked on his vomit and they stole his stuff / left him to die.

Ketamine is a very interesting ride, and has wonderful potential as an antidepressant, but for the love of yourself (and my badly missed friend, John the magic man), PLEASE have someone compus mentus watching over you while you experience it, if you choose to do so.

Also strongly recommend you DO NOT mix with alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And always review information on erowid’s website before using any drug

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Oh erowid…. Brings me back to college

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Ketamine also should not be used in people with high blood pressure as it may further increase it and heart rates to dangerous levels.

Hot tubs increase heart rate as well however the blood pressure is lowered.

Oh yah, he had heart disease which is a no go with hot tubs.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

They gave me ketamine the last time I was in the hospital for pain so they could knock me out.

It was the single worst experience of my life, even worse than the injury I was being knocked out for. I was semi conscious the entire time, but I couldn't feel or hear anything. I just knew people were all around me doing something. It feels like I was dead for a while. I have very few memories from the time they first gave it to me in the ambulance to the time I woke up at home the next day.

Fucking awful experience all around. Next time I was in the hospital for an unrelated condition I told them I'd rather have zero pain medicine than even a tiny amount of ketamine

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Matt Le Blanc:

"...I guess you’re keeping the 20 bucks you owe me.”

This is exactly the kind of humour Perry would've appreciated

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And Elon Musk eats that stuff for breakfast and keeps truckin' on. Life is unfair.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago

He is not just truckin' along. The man looks like someone's aunt is trying to build mass. He looks like an uncooked weisswurst got a planet fitness membership. He is a torso made manifest. Hair plugs and ozempic riding the right-wing-pipeline down a k-hole.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Hot tubs + drugs don't mix. Even alcohol is dangerous because the effect of the hot tub increases the effects. We bought a hot tub recently and they're are dozens of warnings about drugs/alcohol.

My recommendation to Elon would be to have a nice big dose and take a long dip.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Takes note: Don't do horse-tranquilizers alone in a bath, check. As a matter of fact don't do any analgesic/anesthetic with additional drugs in a bath, also check.

[–] RocketBoots 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Calling them horse tranquilizers is misleading. Ketamine was and still is used in medicine and is on the WHO list of essential medicines.

My cat is prescribed gabapentin. Some even get tramadol. Warfarin literally was rat poison until we got all but the craziest SOBs with an abundance of vitamin K in they're veins.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I feel like there is a war on K because it can absolutely replace opiates in pre-hospital pain management. Break a leg? Let the medics hit you with ketamine. Oh, your BP is a little low? No worries, ketamine doesn't care.

It is better than an opiate with none of the contraindications. And I'm oversimplifying, but I can't help but think some of this news coming out is almost a hit piece to dub ketamine dangerous, when it is, in fact, magnitudes safer than opiates.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

When Friends was current I wasn't a fan, the small bits I'd seen mostly annoyed me and - disaffected gothy teens/early twenties guy that I was - I dismissed it as one of those things everyone in the mainstream liked and was therefore obviously garbage.

Nowadays I'm married to a Friends fan who has begun showing me the series. As we progress through the box set I'm realizing it's actually pretty good, a couple of the characters actually still annoy me when they're focused on but there's a ton else going on that's pretty entertaining. I'm particularly surprised to be enjoying Chandler so much.

It's very sad what Matthew Perry went through in life and how he died, but I'm now belatedly appreciating some of the work he did.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look for "Friends without laugh track" clips on Youtube.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

you can't just do that mate, same with Seinfeld, they were filmed in front of a live audience, they had to stop for laughter otherwise you wouldn't hear what they are saying.

or are you gonna come out and say Seinfeld isn't hilarious?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still not sure I'd call it good, but it was a big step up from sitcoms before it. It tried pretty hard to not be sexist, and introduced some diversity that wasn't just John Ritter pretending to be gay for lulz. It is still spectacularly unrealistic, but whatever. It's a sitcom! It does have some genuinely funny moments.

I still periodically get "Smelly Cat" stuck in my head. Fuck, I'm guilty of making Ross-esque synthesizer music...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Very true. There are also definitely still some 1990s-era LGBTQIA+ phobic jokes which were wrong then and really stick out now, but in general I'd call the writing surprisingly decent.

As a New Yorker, though, I still couldn't afford that apartment in a million years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I still couldn't afford that apartment in a million years.

Neither could they, it was rent controlled due to Monica's grandmother living there, and they illegally kept her name on the lease for the cheap rent.

And Chandler made good money, so he could afford the smaller 2 bedroom.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

that's too much, man

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Damn, I did not know Ket could depress respiration like this! In fact Ket is used medicinally in place of opioids as it doesn't depress respiration. But here is the TIL part: it should not be mixed with benzos or alcohol (or other depressants I would imagine). I don't use bu I hope someone who does get to read this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ketamine is anaesthetic and was used in the past in combat medicine and such, because it is quite safe when administered by untrained staff. the fact it is used to treat depression is new to me, but getting in the pool while high on it is the most stupid idea ever :(.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

As someone who enjoys the near death experience of being a flattened disk of light energy folding in space time, this makes me sad.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Im fairly certain that what I'm about to say will be disliked by ketamine users and abstainers.

Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it's many uses because it makes the user stupid. It's often given to suicidal people, not because it's a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

That said, it's great at making people too stupid to be able to hurt themselves, most of the time. It's great at numbing psychological pain because the user will be too stupid to conceptualize their own thoughts or realize where they are physically.

It's also hard on the urinary system and has a fleeting high.

If you like ketamine then by all means, you do you. If you may be interested in trying ketamine, become a zombie safely, just don't expect it to cure your depression, woes, or any of your other problems.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Yeah, I'm gonna take the peer reviewed studies results that show that ketamine is quite effective with relieving drug resistant depression over this post of yours...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/10/ketamine.html

Yeah but I don’t like when peoole see one study and then claim that it’s conclusive. The consensus is that there may there might be something to it being useful for depression, and it should be studied further. No high confidence.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, get this, everyone experiences drugs differently and your bad anecdote is irrelevant next to the mountains of evidence and peer reviewed studies.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I judge my desire to try drugs by how people act when they’re on them. Do they look like they’re having fun at least? Two drugs I’ve never had an interest in:

Ketamine

Nitrous

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I would add to this that anyone doing ketamine should not do it in the bath, which seems to be what happened here. The same happened to someone I knew, she drowned in the tub.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ketamine's effects on respiratory shit is serious.

I almost stopped breathing during an assisted experience because I didn't realize mixing K with benzos was dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s how Elijah McClain died too. Young kid stopped by police for matching the description. They shot him full of ketamine and he died of respiratory failure.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Can't recall all the details, but the impression I got was his respiratory failure was caused by the officer choking him with a knee on his windpipe. EMTs did give a very high dose of ketamine at 5mg/kg body weight, whereas I usually use 0.5-1mg/kg body weight to put patients under surgical anesthesia.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

No shit. In other news Epstein didn't hang himself.

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