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Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did'nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by "you know dude I'm 6,4ft. I don't fit in any other vehicle" makes me go up the wall.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Ok, see to put thin in context a little bit, this truck is not for, nor is it even marketed towards regular people. This is a modular truck, so this is going to be converted into ambulances, tow trucks, bucket trucks, etc. This one does have a bed on it, but they had to get one from like an F-350 and modify it to get it to fit. And while you can buy this truck, it's not really a thing on roads here.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just to add to this, and affirm that it's not intended to be a "go to McDonald's" truck, here is the actual product page for this model where it is marketed as a commercial vehicle.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/f650-f750/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No truck is intended to be a "go to McDonalds" truck. Yet, here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This isn't true any more, look at any modern consumer pickup truck e.g. Ford F150. The bed is ludicrously small and high, it's got a fast, low torque petrol engine and transmission, the cabin is large and comfortable. It's designed to be a normal car and that's what it's used for.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Btw... German car companies built those monstrosities...

The Unimog U500 was more or less just a marketing gag, but the G63 was a real thing...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

To be fair the G wagon is a ridiculous vehicle, truck bed or not

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

What’s supposed to be the deal with the Unimog? It’s an off-road capable military/commercial vehicle that is used pretty much exclusively for those kinds of things. I don’t know the guy in the video, but calling the version that he had “luxurious” was patently absurd: Things like climate control can be legally required if you want to tell your employees to work in these vehicles in extreme weathers (and: Germany can get quite hot as well) and didn’t match at all what he was showing. Also: Because it has an additional cabin to transport more people it is a family-version? WTF? The primary use-case for that is if you need to transport several employees to somewhere. Which is not at all an absurd thing if you are talking farmers/military/fire-brigade/construction/…

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

OP you just got pwned! n00b!! I can't believe the 6x6 is in GTA V and I've never driven it!!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Can confirm. We have 2 Dodge Ram 550s for our ambulances. And the photo clearly has F-550 on the sides.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It also needs a CDL to drive it.

By all means, criticize things like the Lariat or King Ranch trims of the F150. Those add luxury features that clearly have no work purpose. The F250 on up, though, is mostly for people who get shit done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You do not need a CDL. I don't know where you're getting that info

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

An F650 has a GVWR of 26-29k lbs. A CDL is required for any vehicle over 26k

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The GVWR varies, as it's a modular truck, but the lowest is 25,600 according to Ford. Yes it can be higher and need a CDL, but that's due to accessories.

Edit: That's for the 2023 model. Previous model years, such as the 2022 have a GVWR of 22,000 - 26,000

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Factory gvw doesn't matter. What does matter is whether or not it has air brakes, the actual weight of the vehicle including what you are hauling, and the weight range you have insured it for. Your average F350 is legally capable of towing a combined weight of over 25000 lbs also, but you don't need a CDL till you exceed 25000.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You don't need a CDL if it's 26,000lbs or lower. That's the point I'm making. Just driving it, unloaded, without any heavy accessories like a dump bed or a rollback, a CDL is not required. So yes, someone could buy one of these and use it as their mall-crawler without a CDL. That may not be the intended use of the vehicle but it's possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Requirements for the CDL vary by state. Don't know what yours says, but in my own state of Wisconsin, it's any one of:

  • 26,000lbs GVWR (typically; there's some details around how the weight is calculated)
  • Carries hazmat stuff
  • Designed to carry 16 or more people

Air brakes don't enter into it, at least not here.

[–] PlutoParty 2 points 11 months ago

If you intend to operate a commercial vehicle with air brakes, you do have to take an air brake skills test in Wisconsin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Well played, you answered the German with logic