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Similar case in point: "bimonthly" means "twice a month." That makes sense.

But the definition for "bi-weekly" does not make sense.

What do you think?

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[–] pythonoob 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I never heard that semi meant 1/2. I've always thought of semi as rather vague tbh. Meaning that there is no set amount of time between things.

[–] nybble41 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

bi- means two, as in bicycle: two wheels (circles)

semi- means half, as in semicircle: half of a circle

The problem is that the prefixes can be parsed as affecting either duration/interval as in (bi-week)ly, every two weeks, or frequency as in bi-(weekly), two times weekly. The same applies to semi-.

Personally I find the frequency interpretation a bit of a stretch—"two" is not the same as "two times" or "twice"—so I would tend to read e.g. bimonthly as every two months rather than twice each month.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can bisect a circle to make two semicircles!

But if it's semicircular...

[–] nybble41 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

bi-sect: cut into two parts; from Latin "bi-", two, and "secare", to cut.

The "sect" part is critical. "bi-" on its own doesn't imply division.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Heh, yeah, I'm just messing with people here 😆

(This language confusion is mildly amusing, in the apparent inherent ambiguity we've created)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I prefer the opposite system. If someone said to me: we will meet two weekly, it seems closer to “twice weekly” than once every two weeks. Where as semi weekly saying “half weekly” makes it sound like one half of the weeks we meet and the other half we don’t. I have no idea how anyone thinks that meaning semi-weekly means twice weekly. Even the “we meet every half week” makes little sense to me syntax-wise.

[–] nybble41 1 points 11 months ago

If someone said to me: we will meet two weekly...

You're essentially assuming the conclusion by grouping it like that. There are three parts to "biweekly", "bi-", "week", and "-ly". "Once per biweek", i.e. once per 14 days (or per fortnight), makes at least as much sense as "two" × "weekly".

I have no idea how anyone thinks that meaning semi-weekly means twice weekly.

Meeting semiweekly (semiweek-ly, if you must hyphenate it) means meeting every semiweek, or every half-week (3.5 days). Which is an odd internal to meet at if taken literally but would result in meeting twice each week. "Semiannually" is a more common example, and I've never seen or heard it used to refer to anything but a 6-month (half-year) interval.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I always assumed semi meant "some fraction of a whole" and "hemi" meant exactly half.

For example, semi truck, semi colon, and even semester aren't "half" a truck, colon, or school year. But they are fractions of one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

"Semi truck" is not half a truck, but a truck designed to carry one half the weight of the cargo it is hauling. A semi trailer is one designed to have half of its load (by weight) carried by the tow vehicle. A standard trailer gets difficult and possibly dangerous to tow if the weight carried by the tow vehicle (hitch weight) strays too far outside the 8%-12% range.

And just to add to the confusion, Dodge popularized something called the "hemi engine"--an engine with a "hemi head", not half an engine. And "hemi head" refers not to "1/2 an engine head" but to the approximately hemispherical (1/2 sphere) shape of the combustion chambers cast/machined into the engine head.