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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Why can't people just stop using google? Genuinely curious

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because most alternatives aren't nearly as functional due to them dominating the market.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes alternate platforms with good level of UX exists. But without content its no good. YouTube - Peertube Google maps - Organic maps & OSMAnd (open street maps) Reddit - Lemmy (bigger is better)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Google Maps actually sucks for things like hiking and trails, there's a lot of better alternatives like Maps.me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

For the others, maybe. But YouTube? It's strength is in the sheer amount of content. It's going to take a lot of time and resources to create and host that content on the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is frightfully expensive to host video content. YouTube would cost Billions per year to run.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I always wonder about this. I pay only a few bucks per month for Nebula. I highly suspect Nebula is running at a loss.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. Nebula operates at a far, far smaller scope, with an emphasis on quality of videos over quantity, and every user is a paid user. If every user of YouTube was paying a couple bucks per month, they'd be making in the high tens of billions of dollars of revenue per year, several times more than they do with ads. Plus YouTube has a ridiculously huge amount of essentially worthless videos because literally anyone can upload a 10 hour video, so surely their hosting costs are higher per user than Nebula.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh right, I somehow forgot about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Subscriptions are really lucrative. Iirc most ads pay like 0.1-0.5 cents per view, so you'd need to watch an insane amount of videos to equal the cost of a $2 subscription. I could probably make a site that brings in money if I had 5 $2 subscribers and a half 100 medium quality vids. Start scaling that up and it can be really profitable while offering subscribers a fair shake.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

There's no alternative to youtube that isn't complete garbage

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

By and large, that's where the content is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So what is equal or better alternative than Google Maps, Youtube and Google Search?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've been using duckduckgo for half a year already they've became quite good compared to Google search, Google maps alternative is any popular maps app just try what'll fit your tastes, but YouTube is certainly don't have alternatives YET just because libre alternatives though exist but not yet in shape enough (basically we need datahoarders who'll hoard and host whole youtube to libre alternatives such as framatube and others) for now we can only rely to custom frontends such as clipious, piped and others and custom apps of course

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps (OSM would be even better if more people used and actively contributed mapping data to it), no real youtube alternative yet (but see Piped/Invidious, Peertube, and Odysee), and there's plenty of alternative search engines like Duckduckgo, Brave search (has its own index), etc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I started ditching google apps last spring and my “alternatives” are: bing/apple maps, invidious, and SearXNG. I self-host the last two to keep even more control of my data.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

there is no such "better" alternative. how could we compare a company that has been digging up their user data and built something with it, vs some community or even a solo developer who build something out of nowhere without collecting or selling data?

but, what are the alternative?

Google Maps

  • OpenStreetMap, is not as complete as Google Map, the amount of places won't be the same. but it's enough to help you navigating from a district to another district, and use much lower resource too

YouTube

  • Odysee, couldn't explain, think of it like YouTube
  • Rumble, couldn't explain, think of it like YouTube
  • PeerTube, a fediverse software where you can upload videos and do livestream, you own your data
  • Piped, NewPipe, PipePipe, Invidious are just alternative frontend for YouTube, its good if you are watching an exclusive content from their platform. But why do we keep letting YouTube has our data?

Google Search

wow, really?

  1. DuckDuckGo, controversial, but enough
  2. Brave Search, controversial, honestly aint using it
  3. Searx, host it yourself, you own your data

and hey, why didn't you mention about the browser, mails, and many more? There is firefox, tuta, and much more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Revealed preferences. As much as people won't admit it, these services do provide legitimate value, and they also cost a lot of money to operate.