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Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I'm sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why focus on it?

Because it proves you weren't paying attention.

If you’re ‘sick’ and people take care of you...

She isn't sick. Nobody is taking care of her because she's missing an arm. She's just as capable with one arm as you are with two. She'd receive the same amount of support with or without an extra arm. She could have ten hands, and everyone would still offer theirs to help her at a moment's notice. She doesn't demand it, she just knows it's coming.

I didn’t argue she is giving people super cancer

I didn't say you did. But there's not even an imposition. There's no discomfort. Nobody suffers even a tiny bit. The only difference is the number of arms a woman has. Considering you aren't arguing she's a burden, what "harm" are you implying she's causing?

You should re read what I typed

I did. You said the people helping her feel like she's treating them like feet. They don't. They feel like family. She's treating them like family.

That’s why I made no judgement on her overall character.

You said that her not wanting to accept a gift for free was a result of trauma, and she was pushing people away by remaining in that trauma. There is no trauma. You created a phantom person with a phantom problem to complain about.

If you break it down like that...

But that is what you said. Not all that other strawman bullshit nobody even implied. You said helping people makes them like you. It doesn't. It might, but nobody has to accept help they don't want. Forcing help on someone who doesn't want it can cause problems, or they might see it as a debt they're uncomfortable with, and it can actually be pretty cruel. This is why people have to stress to her that there is never going to be any debt imposed on her and she still feels uncomfortable accepting it.

I hope to fuck that the people you help in your career actually WANT your help.

But the act is obviously selfish.
Even if I agree with you on everything, how is that supposed to show she isn’t acting selfish with her choice from earlier?

How? How is turning down regeneration because you think the effort is better spent elsewhere, or offering to pay someone for a dress, selfish? And how is it "obviously" so? How does her choice benefit her or disadvantage anyone else? How is her choice selfish?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

You obviously don't care to engage with anything I'm saying, taking the worst possible interpretation possible. Now you're throwing around insults. You don't care to have a conversation. I'm going to take a guess and say it's your attachment to the comic.

Good luck, and I hope your disposition improves.