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Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I'm sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait wait I know how this one went: “You purchase this media to ESCAPE the real world and they FORCE their WOKE AGENDA down your throat!!!”

Fucking pissy crybabies, let em cope

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The unspoken part of that argument being they deep down desire a world that has no non-white, disabled, queer people in it at all and don't understand others don't think that way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would love a world with no disabled people in it in the same way that I would love a world without refugees.

Which is very much not the way the people who generally list those thing together mean it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, I suppose in a way both sides want a world without marginalized people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I can only speak for myself but the slight issue I take with "woke" aspects in games is more down to the fact that it takes me out of the experience and forcibly makes me recall the very real discussion around it. That alone wouldn't be a problem because quite frankly every game is political in some way but the "woke" discussion has been extremely loud and, at least for me, exhausting in both directions. So if I stumble upon an issue of it in a game it immediately pulls me back to reality, ruining my moment of escapism.

And I don't think your conclusion of people's actual desires is accurate. There is wanting all characters to be white, having a problem with 50% of a supposedly medieval european population being black and a lot of nuance in between those two extremes. Again, I can't speak for anyone except myself but the vast majority of complaints I've met are from people who do not take issue with represantation itself but with the degree it is pushed with.

Disclaimer: please excuse the typos, I'll maybe fix them later

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you're so annoyed with just having to hear about it, imagine how shitty it must be to walk out into the world and deal with discrimination. Not just, like, people asking you to think about someone else, but people treating you like you're not even human.