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why the fuck do we even allow lobbying. bullshit fake gamified system that no proper country should have
Writing to your representative is a form of lobbying
An unsolicited expert opinion is lobbying
What's messed up is the amount of money to run and that citizens united made unlimited funds possible
Congressmen always worried about the cash they'll need to get elected
If there were term limits we would have faceless corporate buyouts with little experience, vs someone running on name recognition
Heck I want a campaign finance max limit.
Unfortunately, term limits can't stop this.
Campaign finance reform can. Anyone running for office has a cap on how much can be spent. Political organizations also have a cap and they have to disclose who their donors are.
No more dark money.
I'd say we should go so far as to move to sortition (randomly selected people serving a term in office) but I am pragmatic.
I say we push all suffering and misery onto a single child and then live in the utopia that results.
... That's what I just said. Are you a bot?
I think I hit reply to the wrong parent message. But either way, I'm totally not a robot..........
That totally sounds like something robot would say though... :p
Right. Politicians know nothing about technology half the time, right?
Who does know - it’s people in the technology field.
They have to communicate somehow. Not saying it’s not broken today, and I think you could have a clever setup of advisors, but at the end of the day there will just have to be some kind of input by experts.
Let's just skip all the bullshit and move straight to direct voting.
It's been proven that congress doesn't follow the will of the people, anyways.
Paragraph salad, delicious
Because at least in theory, lobbying is at the core of a functioning republic. If you and couple neighbors get together to try to convince your county aldermen to fix some potholes, that's lobbying. Any time a person tries to influence their representative, it's lobbying. It's incredibly difficult to have actual codified laws that allow the things you want without also opening up tons of loopholes for corruption.
Why do you think it's hard to separate the two? One involves receiving money or business perks and the other serves the community.
Because directly receiving money is already illegal. Anything currently legal is so because it's protected by the same things protecting local organizations putting up flyers/billboards/radio ads/etc. Even stricter monetary limits don't really work, as you end up catching things such national humane society ads, because if they contain any messaging regarding support for legislation/wanting new legislation it's considered lobbying.
It's really just an intro to the subject, but Knowing Better has a great video on it. Great leaping off point. The very short and very inadequate TL;DW is essentially that "get the money out of politics" doesn't actually mean anything.
I don't have time to watch the video but I will later. It's never going to be possible to get the money out of politics 100%, but transparency and getting rid of super pacs would go a long way.
Oh there is absolutely more we could be doing, especially regarding tracking dark money spending. I was primarily pointing out that "we should just get rid of lobbying" is an almost entirely nonsensical statement.
It is illegal in many places, but nearly impossible to enforce.
Why do you think that?
Experience. It's illegal in Brazil, no one has ever been convicted. It's a hard crime to define. It's like a law saying "strictly no ambling", but how do you differentiate from regular walking?
It is the right to petition government. Not allowing this is kind of fascist?