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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or people need to give up the idea of taking three tons of metal to work with them every day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Happy too just as soon as work locate themselves somewhere that's actually accessible via public transport. And not in some out of town business park with only road access and no cycling facilities.

Also they need to change the weather so it never rains or snows and is always warm but not too warm.

If they start doing those things then we can talk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also they need to change the weather so it never rains or snows and is always warm but not too warm.

I love when people say stuff like this. It's the "I'm not even going to try" comment. If children in Finland can bike to school in the winter, I think your adult self can deal with a little bit of not-ideal weather sometimes. You just have to dress for it, and not expect to always be isolated from the environment like some people want to be for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

yeah most weather you can easily deal with by dressing appropriately and accepting that you're not going to be 100% comfortable all the time, especially when the distances aren't too long. That said, I did have to endure some horrid weather as a kid on my bike to school that I'm not sure I'd want to put someone else through

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

just as soon as work locate themselves somewhere that's actually accessible via public transport

Might be easier to enact WFH and vote for more public transportation funding. Waiting for a company to choose to do anything on their own is a little naive, though.

Also they need to change the weather so it never rains or snows and is always warm but not too warm.

Well as long as our expectations are realistic.

If they start doing those things then we can talk.

Most reasonable pro-SUV advocate award.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Reading comprehension skills are lacking I see

The comment I was replying to was saying that electric vehicles are not viable and instead we should move away from private vehicle ownership. I was responding by pointing out why we still need private vehicle ownership.

I didn't make a comment about the method of proportion those private vehicles use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The comment you replied to didn't say anything of the sort, though I understand you interpreted it in that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Or people need to give up the idea of taking three tons of metal to work with them every day.

It literally says that, it literally says people shouldn't be taking their car to work with them. How else am I supposed to interpret it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Smaller vehicles will likely be a lot more viable for most of us, rather than an expensive electric car.

Electric bikes, for example. Certainly on a "last few miles" basis. If you live further than that, then public transport will end up being the bulk of it.

Public transport should be heavily subsidised.

Maybe the prices of electric cars will come down to acceptable levels, but I suspect that there's a layer of people who could just about afford to keep a 10 year-old petrol banger on the road, who won't have that option under electric vehicles. Something needs to be provided and quickly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It literally says "Or people need to give up the idea of taking three tons of metal to work with them every day."

You said:

The comment I was replying to was saying that electric vehicles are not viable and instead we should move away from private vehicle ownership.

Funnily enough, NONE of the words in your interpretation of their comment are in the original, not even the articles or connective words (what are even the odds that two sentences of more than 15 words not sharing at least ONE word?). The good-faith interpretation (the one they provided to this comment) would be they were advocating for subsidizing more public transport and increasing the usage of cheaper and smaller personal electric bikes, or cheaper and smaller cars in general.

Instead, you went with 'this person is scolding me for my car', and wrote an ironic comment placing the call to action on companies relocating to public transportation hubs and controlling the fucking weather, before which you would even engage in a conversation - presumably a conversation about 'giving up the idea of taking three tons of metal to work with you every day', but I'll admit I don't know.

Seems to me like you took the comment as a personal attack on your decision to own a car, but I think @[email protected] would put the call to action on subsidizing public transportation and designing more walk-able and bike-friendly cities.

Nobody can help you if you're afraid of the weather though.