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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Consider two 5'6" 65kg athletes, one man and one woman, are you saying that the man doesn't have an advantage?

I used to believe the same until I saw the recent Women's Premier League in Cricket. They had to reduce the size of field and the weight of ball. Even with that, the fastest bowl in the tournament was 130kmph while that speed is considered a "slower ball" in men's cricket.

Now some of these female cricketers earm more than any Pakistani male cricketers. Which is fair, bigger market, bigger payout. But female cricketers don't stand a chance against the male cricketers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What does an athlete that's a man have to do with trans people

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, that's literally completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. You just flat out stated in this comment that you think that all trans women are actually just men. You're flat out wrong about that.

We have more than enough science that demostrates conclusively that a person on hormone therapy is athletically more similar to the sex they are transitioning to than the sex they were born in. You're just ignoring all of that and pretending that it doesn't exist. YOU might not like that it exists because it makes it clear that you're just being a bigot, but it does exist, and it demonstrates exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is a surprise for you: HRT actually does things to your body. I don't think this should have been that hard to find on your own, but I can't judge your circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Transphobes always make the same tired arguments about "biological differences between men and women" and then scream and run away when you bring up actual science, because they don't care about the science. They care about being bigots, and using science to make their bigotry look legitimate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Consider two 5'6" 65kg athletes, one man and one woman, are you saying that the man doesn't have an advantage?

No, my MMA teacher was female and she'd kick my arse regularly

They had to reduce the size of field and the weight of ball. Even with that, the fastest bowl in the tournament was 130kmph

Now you're undermining your first point, you're not comparing same heights and weight. Physics is real.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay.

Ellyse Perry, the fastest bowler in women's cricket is 176cm at 60kg (amazing athlete, represented Australia at both Cricket and Football world cups!). Her fastest ball was 130.1kph

Shoaib Akthar, the fastst bowler in men's cricket is 180cm at 80kg. His fastest was 161kph

Laws of cricket dictate that women should use a ball that is between 415⁄16 and 55⁄16 ounces (139.98 and 150.61 grams); which could be up to 13⁄16 ounces (23.03 grams) lighter than the ball used by the men.

Also made me think, the whole height-weight distinction will only work in purely physical sports like boxing (maybe even some american sports like baseball and nfl). It is not going to work in global sports like Cricket and Football. Think about the greatest footballers of our generation. Cristiano was 183cm (6ft) and Messi 169cm (5ft 6in).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So his mass is 33% more and the ball goes 23% faster? Momentum is mass x velocity iirc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I only pointed out the difference between the fastest. There’s plenty of shorter, leaner bowlers in men’s cricket who bowl faster than Perry. Kemar Roach for instance is in the same height and weight category as Perry and regularly bowls 150kph

Tbf it’s expected. You know women going below 16-18% body fat is completely unhealthy while top male athletes are perfectly healthy at 6% or so

Edit: wtf mate? Momentum is not mass of propeller times velocity. By your logic a sumo wrestler would easily be the fastest cricket bowler!