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I just got up from conversation with a couple of older black men, that I said "well I got to go back to work and start cracking the whip." And it occurred to me then that it was probably a really insensitive stupid thing to say.

Sadly, it hadn't occurred to me until it's already said.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's sort-of an antique trope whose main thrust is implying Native cultures are backward and unworldly because they don't have distilleries (though, point in fact, some of them did ferment alcohol).

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Firewater and other drinking stereotypes were about the myth of Native Americans all being raging alcoholics, which are as racist as saying black people are inherently violent or Jewish people inherently coveting money.

The alcohol abuse rates of Native Americans aligns with poverty issues, just like everyone else.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I honestly had no idea until now that firewater had anything to do with Native Americans. I just thought it was a term for alcohol, and don't use it myself anyway.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Never heard it that way. It is a calque of a Native American name from the northern plains. I always thought a white person using it was offensive due to negative stereotypes about native Americans and drinking (and also mocking somewhat, like walking about saying โ€œhowโ€ or speaking pidgin).