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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a potentially contentious opinion. Normies are what ruined Reddit and the crowd attracted by normie communities are why Reddit is even more toxic than it used to be.

We don't need to attract normies, we just need to attract more people like us.

I don't hate normies by any means, but I don't want to hang out with them all day either.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah I completely disagree. Imagine if a city/local gov wanted to use Lemmy in order to be self hosted (similar to EU govs switching to Mastodon) but the public just wonders why their local gov put their stuff on a weird circle jerk website that's flooded with niche memes. "Why didn't they use the normal thing (i.e. reddit)?"

We should be welcoming enough that, when someone wants to make a new subreddit, they make Lemmy community instead. And I don't think thats the case right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's fair. Hadn't considered that

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Memes that people don't get are unwelcoming."

If a person sees something they've never seen before, and turns around and flees, that's a problem with them being sheltered and pathetic, not a problem with the new thing they haven't encountered before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's not fleeing as much as it is being so bored that that they never really find the motivation to come back.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The worst part of trying to appeal more to normies is how they hand out bans like they're candy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Gotta appeal to advertisers that want the normie eye balls.

I hate using the word normie, because these people truthfully haven't done anything wrong. It's the advertisers that follow them around like vampires that are the issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Under a centralized system, bans are terrible. But federation is awesome because it's perfectly okay for an instance to be ban-happy. Just join another instance. (I'm on lemm.ee because I want to see everything)

Not only is it fine, but I think we actually need a variety of instances; no-bans, some-bans, lots-of-bans, and excessive-bans. People should have the choice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nothing more normie than tribalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then go use Reddit if you want all the normies around. There's a site that already exists that meets your desires. I still use it for niche content, but there has been an undeniable increase in toxicity on Reddit as the user count has increased.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typical down vote and smarmy useless comments. Feels like you want to go back home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using normie unironicaly, you never left home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your grandstanding is cringe. This is a forum, not a political movement. If you want normie content then go back to Reddit. When I want normie content I'll use TikTok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are very wise, unique, and superior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, I just don't want the place overrun by people who are mostly just around to flame and insult.

Pick up moderating a few large subreddits and you'll see what I mean. Even on a small sub like /r/Infiniti, I've seen a massive increase in people just being pricks, especially after a cross post. Smaller user base makes it less likely.

Like I said in another post, I don't like using the word normie because it's not actually descriptive of the behavior I'm talking about, but it's the word the thread is using.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Be the change you want to see, I guess.