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Veteran film collector John Franklin believes the answer is for the BBC to announce an immediate general amnesty on missing film footage.

This would reassure British amateur collectors that their private archives will not be confiscated if they come forward and that they will be safe from prosecution for having stored stolen BBC property, something several fear.

“Some of these collectors are terrified,” said Franklin, who knows the location of the two missing Doctor Who episodes, along with several other newly discovered TV treasures, including an episode of the The Basil Brush Show, the second to be unearthed this autumn. “We now need to catalogue and save the significant television shows that are out there. If we are not careful they will eventually be dumped again in house clearances, because a lot of the owners of these important collections are now in their 80s and are very wary,” he added.

Discarded TV film was secretly salvaged from bins and skips by staff and contractors who worked at the BBC between 1967 and 1978, when the corporation had a policy of throwing out old reels. And Hartnell’s Doctor Who episodes were far from the only ones to go. Many popular shows were lost and other Doctor Who adventures starring Patrick Troughton and Jon Pertwee were either jettisoned or erased. A missing early episode of the long-running sitcom Sykes, starring Eric Sykes and Hattie Jacques, has also been rediscovered in private hands in the last few weeks.

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The BBC said it was ready to talk to anyone with lost episodes. “We welcome members of the public contacting us regarding programmes they believe are lost archive recordings, and are happy to work with them to restore lost or missing programmes to the BBC archives,” it said.

Whether this will be enough to prompt nervous collectors to come forward is doubtful. While collectors are in no real danger, the infamous arrest of comedian Bob Monkhouse in 1978 has not been forgotten, Franklin suspects: “Monkhouse was a private collector and was accused of pirating videos. He even had some of his archive seized. Sadly people still believe they could have their films confiscated.”

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[–] Deebster 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But they weren't stolen, they were legally thrown away, and legally (?) scavenged. Surely picking something out of a bin or landfill isn't a crime...

Edit: I looked it up and according to this page, there's legal precedent that says it's ok:

If someone honestly thinks that it’s okay to take something, even if it belongs to someone else, they might not be guilty. Theft has to include an element of dishonesty.

If the person who threw away the goods intended to throw them away and wanted to claim no further ownership, this would be classed as abandonment. If goods are abandoned, they legally have no owner and anyone who takes them would not be guilty of theft.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

An investigation would happen regardless if it was legal or not, that’s what the investigation would be to determine……