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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One day we’ll get thickkk ssds

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doubt it. 64TB SSDs are already here in a 2.5"-ish form factor (U.2/u.3/E3.S). 128TB are only a couple years out.

40TB HDDs will be competing with 2.5" 128TB SSDs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your optimism about SSD prices is IMHO unjustified.

NANDs are afaik still produced in 14-15nm so the only way they get more capacity is stacking multiple layers.

So even if they add more and more layers the price of these NANDs will run into a price/capacity wall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying anything about prices, just about available capacities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously I just wanna buy some 8TB NVMes for the same price as 4x2TB NVMes. Or give me a cheapo not premium flash 16TB SATA SSD, if an NVMe one just isn't doable.

Let us get beyond the 2TB SSDs!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can get an enterprise 7.68TB drive for $530: https://www.amazon.com/SOLIDIGM-D5-P5430-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B0C96FTCS3

It's a little more than 4x2TB but you get enterprise reliability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

8TB in the M.2 NVMe form factor is gonna be tough, though 8TB in the U.2 form factor (PCIe to a 2.5" drive) can be had for $400 used / $550 new (search "Intel DC P4510 SSDPE2KX080T851").

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can already get new Samsung 8TB QLC in 2.5” SSD on Amazon for $300

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SATA != NVMe. The above Intel drive is NVMe, not SATA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm aware. The OP we're both responding to asked for SATA if not available for NVMe. $300 is cheaper than $400

Or give me a cheapo not premium flash 16TB SATA SSD, if an NVMe one just isn't doable.

Let us get beyond the 2TB SSDs!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Except he asked for a 8TB NVMe or a 16TB SATA. Is your $320 SATA drive 16TB? I was simply pointing out 8TB NVMe drives were available and not overly expensive.

I just wanna buy some 8TB NVMes for the same price as 4x2TB NVMes. Or give me a cheapo not premium flash 16TB SATA SSD, if an NVMe one just isn't doable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm partial to the long boi's (EDSFF long) they have in servers now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe those from Nimbus is your thing? Exadrive, baby!