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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It makes sense but it is also not just impossible but begging for a world power to step in and impose themselves. How would an union already incapable of helping Ukraine and dealing with internal turmoil in each of their countries suddenly project itself between two groups that want to kill each other and think they will be successful there. Hell, have you even thought about how Turkey and Hungary would react and try to exploit their own influence over such a protectorate?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The UK should be the protectorate there. They've got experience in the region. (/s)

Edit: added /s before someone takes it serious.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Residents of Blackpool and Luton would welcome this as it would give them a new opportunity to live somewhere better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Probably a good point, before someone takes it serious. Then again, the German word would be "ausbaden" for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Last time we were in charge we caused the current situation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, came here to comment on the fact that we don’t care what the EU thinks, we need a word from the experts!!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why is it impossible? The simplest possible way would be to hold new elections in Gaza for which Hamas do not run.

It would probably lead to a group identical to Hamas being elected, but it would be neither Israel nor Hamas.

What may be impossible is a government that's aligned with western governments, but that's not what is being asked for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I thought I spent most of my comment explaining why. I think your last sentence illustrates it best - do you think western governments like the US and anyone not Von der Leyen would be ok with it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

project itself between two groups that want to kill each other and think they will be successful there.

Because Israel wouldn't attack them and the other group won't have many weapons left when the IDF is finished with them. Obviously it won't be the EU alone as it would be seen as too one sided (well Ireland maybe not), but let's not forget that we're talking about a 360kmΒ² area with less than 2 million people here. This isn't a huge landlocked mountain country like Afghanistan, it's a tiny strip of desert with a modern harbor in walking distance. For reference you can look at the manpower KFOR and similar missions have.

It's not going to be easy to get political approval but a UN mission would almost certainly be able to keep the peace there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's better than just hoping Israel works it out, but it's still unworkable. Israel won't accept it. Hamas won't accept it. The US won't accept it. Iran won't accept it. Russia won't accept it. Whoever would be left doing it would get attacked from all sides, from within, and all while getting accused of imperialism from outside. I don't think a UN peacekeeping mission in territory where conflict is being fueled by the billions from all sides is workable, and if anything, it will attract the attention world powers who say they can only so they can station their bases closer to where their black markets are. It's still just my opinion, but reality will have to convince me on this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas won’t accept it.

That's a pro not a con. Obviously any international peacekeeping mission's main objective would be to wipe out Hamas completely. The key is to make it easier for Palestinians to support their liberation from that regime that it would be if the - unfortunately necessary - occupying solders were Israeli.

All the other main groups might be willing to negotiate a peace deal. Hamas (and a few smaller similar groups) are what needs to purged to make that happen.