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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude needs to stand before a firing line, not go to jail.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

That's a lil extreme my guy

Edit: what fuckin world do we live in, where someone says that a politician needs to be shot to death, and the controversial opinion is to not shoot someone? Am I crazy for thinking that killing trump wouldn't solve anything? We shouldn't give people a martyr. The best way to get rid of someone is by shaming them and forgetting them.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“Furthermore, 18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a crazy variation in punishment for treason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When he says that on a fringe social media platform it's "lil extreme"

When Trump says that 5 thugs need to be put to death, who were found Innocent, it's just an opinion everyone is allowed to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh no, that's also an extreme opinion. Death is always an extreme opinion, because there's no way to change your mind. Death is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're gonna be a naïve idealist, at least be an effective one and pick arguments where you're not splitting hairs over hyperbole on niche social media, much less hyperbole directed at a world-class factory of inflammatory hyperbole who has 0 chance of being executed by the government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will not entertain the concept of normalizing extremist hyperbole, as normalizing extremes tends to make them normal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what do you do when that comes? If most people consider extreme to be normal, what do the rest of us do?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

There is a difference between starting conflict, and defending yourself. Assassination is not a defense

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not sure about this really. You have a great point with the martyr risk, but then again, if Hitler had been executed in 1924, would the whole nazi thing have fallen on its face? Trumpism (much like Hitlerism) is a person cult. Perhaps killing their leader is exactly the kind of thing what people like Trump supporters respect and positively respond to.

The best way to get rid of someone is by shaming them

I think we can be pretty certain that this strategy is not working against Trump. Unless you find a shaming angle that actually works against his supporters. I have no idea what that could be since just about every angle that would work on normal people has been tried out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I started typing the Hitler comparison before seeing you beat me to it.

Well said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, if Hitler had been killed on Aug 29 1939, the Nazis might have done a lot better than they did. I don't think his generals would have marched into Russia the way he did.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To respond to your edit:

Death as a punishment for treason would do a lot to stem the tide of treasonous fucks that are currently holding high positions in our political system.

The time for leniency is OVER. And making a martyr out of a huge sack of shit is just fine- let more of those fucks step out of line and see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you really think that's how it'd go down? You might want to rethink that one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve rethought it- and yea, that’s how it would go down.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, so you're not just in a bad mood or something, you're just stupid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not so stupid that I’d think that doing next to nothing is the proper way to deal with traitors to our country.

It’s even in built into our laws that death be a possible punishment.

But noooooo, better he remain in jail where he can continue to rile up his army of dipshits and continue destroying this country.

And yes, jailing him still entitles him to martyrdom. At least if the fat fuck were bleeding out in the dirt- he’d shut the fuck up for a change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If such was legal and in accordance with the Constitution of the United States of America, the military would stand ready to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and obey the orders of those appointed them. Our officers stand ready and willing to defend the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Domestic terrorists are terrorists, and there's nothing we like better than to hunt terrorists and put warheads on foreheads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, good luck getting a court to convict that. There are multiple lawsuits. None of them are considering anything with the death penalty, nor should it. There is no legal precedence for it.

Convicting Trump of the death penalty is more likely to result in a 2nd civil war than it is to make people fall in line. We tried bombing the taliban into falling in line for 20 years. How'd that go?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We'll March to the Sea again - and back, and forth, and back, and forth, as long as it takes. We did it once, we can do it again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I think it is more towards the fear of him becoming re-elected and death -- while indeed extreme -- would prevent such an outcome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Not really. It's in line with all US laws to ask for the death penalty

18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

Considering the scope and impact of his crimes. It would be reasonable to ask for the maximum punishment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I agree, we should throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm 100% with you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

He may be a politician but he's also a criminal and I think that would be the punishment for his crimes not for being a politician. Although hes a pretty awful politician too lol that's not a crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boy let me tell you something about our founding fathers.... This man tried to destroy our democracy, he deserves to die. However, for the sake of our civilized society I would prefer to see him rot in jail until he dies in the most unglamorous way possible that way he can't be made a martyr.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blanket Party, and everyone in the nation gets 15 seconds each.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's as though people want a civil war.