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[–] [email protected] 149 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There’s also the option of biting the bullet and paying for YouTube Premium.

No. Never. I'd rather stop using YT at all than giving in to coerced user-tracking.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I mean, I might have considered paying for YT premium if I thought it offered some value (other than disabling ads) but I won't sure as hell pay for anything that any company is trying to blackmail me into.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean you didn't buy it before so why would you now? You don't need excuses. You just don't want to pay for it. Own it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

One could argue that we're paying for it without our consent, given the fact that Google doesn't pay anything in taxes. That's a cool four billion a year (at least) that they get from the American taxpayer for free.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

One could argue that we're paying for it without our consent

One could argue that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists. That doesn't make it remotely true.

Google doesn't pay anything in taxes

Uh. Google pays a shitload in taxes. There hasn't been a single year that they HAVEN'T paid taxes. They paid 11 billion in income taxes alone in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use it because YouTube music is included and it's great while driving, it allows background play even with the screen off (I'm talking about mobile).

There's something more, but nothing that a pro user cannot already do with third tools.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I find it funny how sometimes apps "create value" by taking something away which is included by default in similar products and goes without saying.

In this context: YouTube is the only app I know which is denying to work when put into background or with the screen off.

Or take some car manufacturers who start asking for a fee just to use basic functionality.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But that's the wrong way around. They don't want you to pay, they make their money through advertising. They make far more money from advertiser's paying to put up ads than they ever make from people paying for premium.

Same as with Facebook now bringing in an ad-free version (in the EU anyway) - they charge higher than is reasonable so that people will opt for the ad-supported free version instead.

It's not that you are blackmailed into paying premium, it's that you're encouraged not to as a way of explicitly consenting to ads.

Basically, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

lmao you're so wrong on ads being more profitable than premium, especially on a per-user basis

According to this you can expect to make around $18/1000 views. That's with 55% going to the creator and 45% to Google. Which means that Google makes around $14.5 per 1000 views.

Coincidentally, that's also rougly the price of YouTube Premium. Are you telling me that you watch a thousand videos per month?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

That makes a lot of sense.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

For desktop install and use "FreeTube".

Alternatively for your android phone you can use "GrayJay"

Never. Pay. For. YouTube. Premium

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

NewPipe still works well for me on Android.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I assume you need to be rooted for Gray Jay?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

No, it works fine for me. It's just an apk.

https://grayjay.app/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't need root because this is its own app unlike the apps like revance which patch your existing YouTube app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You don't need root for ReVanced. It can patch an APK from storage.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Abandoning YouTube is seriously more difficult than abandoning other "non-fediverse" general social media platforms, since it's got so much useful content that gets straight up ruined by the company that owns the website.

I doubt PeerTube is anything better than Vimeo, at least for now, things can improve after all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At this point, I don't even care about the user tracking. I just don't want to sit through unskippable ads anymore. Especially when it's the same ad over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Well then you're in luck, you have a lot of options for removing ads before giving money to YouTube.