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While WEI is thankfully cancelled, it's not entirely cancelled... They're planning on making it available still in WebViews with the intention that websites can check if a malicious Android app is trying to do a phishing scheme.

Seems like such a niche "security" feature... what are they really trying to accomplish here? Something seems fishy to me

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know about graphene, but doesn't some android roms allow to use custom ( more private Webview implementations) instead of default ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even on "stock" android (at least the Pixel version) the option is there in the developer settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like, you can switch some, but idk how you install a second one

[–] shym3q 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you root, you can install open webview module.

currently using mulch webview and updating it in f-droid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I did that too. Mulch or Vanadium, I would recommend Vanadium. Bromite is dead. Cromite maybe, but really just use Vanadium its the most degoogled and secure one.

But apart from that, the developer options make no sense if there is no way to actually install one without root.

Also, openwebview replaces the installed one, doesnt it?

[–] shym3q 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It does replace system webview.

Both Vanadium and Mulch are powerful. Mulch is Divest os default vebview and is using Vanadium patches. While the Vanadium is Graphene one.

https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/mulch

https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Vanadium

I stick with Mulch, because I added divest repo to Droidify, so I can upgrade webview as soon new update comes out. No need to wait for module update.

Haven't found a good way to easily update Vanadium. On XDA module's thread you can read about it.

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-webview-open-webview-2-3-1.4496119/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I know the projects. GrapheneOS hates F-Droid which is annoying, but I am 100% sure its the more secure and complete OS. DivestOS probably has more user-facing features.

I think every Custom ROM should build on top of GrapheneOS, extend the device list (with worse security but only for some threat models) and add better apps.

Here you get the GrapheneOS apps (very few): https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Apps/releases

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

GrapheneOSses Appstore might be able to update the webview?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chromium comes with a webview APK, but I couldn't find one for Firefox / gecko

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Firefox doesnt provide a webview for some reason.

Its really shitty, because it could be a better standard for webapps on Linux too. But now we have electron, which is basically compatible with firefox as its web technology

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, they provide these Webviews, meaning they get a shitload of work probably, to remove that DRM BS. Until random apps (like all those Playstore apps) stop working on non-DRM webview... yay!

Like, there are already services that just work with apps. If these apps dont work anymore, well...