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weird (adj.)
c. 1400,
• "having power to control fate", from wierd (n.), from Old English wyrd "fate, chance, fortune; destiny; the Fates," literally "that which comes,"
• from Proto-Germanic wurthiz (cognates: Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt "fate," Old Norse urðr "fate, one of the three Norns"),
• from PIE wert- "to turn, to wind," (cognates: German werden, Old English weorðan "to become"),
• from root wer- (3) "to turn, bend" (see versus).
• For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," compare phrase turn into "become."
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I agree, mostly. I think you do make things a bit more rigid than I. It's true in my own experience that if I want a significant adjustment I have to re-evaluate prior long-standing beliefs and habits, and sometimes I may not even be immediately completely aware of what they are, so it's not easy. But for mild adjustments it's not as hard as all that, and it's not just luck. For example, I've trained my vision before. The biggest conflict there is with the belief that my vision is produced by a physical structure of the eyeball and that structure is how it is and that's that. That's the biggest stumbling block there. But since I was able to at least temporarily improve my vision to a noticeable to me personally degree, it means even without completely overcoming physicalism I was not completely helpless.
So in other words, instead of waiting to have a perfect condition for this or that transformation, it's a good idea to attempt the transformation and perhaps fail, and then work on both transforming things and better understanding them in parallel. So for example, don't try to make it sequential like this: 1st, I'll realign my belief in what the world is, and 2nd, I'll make my or humanity's experience abundant. If you're going to work at it, I suggest doing both in parallel. It means your abundance magick (as an example, assuming that's what you want, because it isn't what I want, or at least, not that I don't want it, but it's a low priority item for me) will not be very smooth or successful and it will run into whatever walls, and as that wall-bumping happens you get to examine what those walls are in a way that's much better than if you were doing a purely theoretical examination from a more disengaged perspective. So it's learning as you play and playing as you learn, basically. There is no need to make those sequential, like learning first, and then playing second, like we do in this shitbag of a world when we first go to school, and then we graduate, and then we do whatever the fuck the school has supposedly taught us, completely sequentially. That sequential mindset is basically bad in my view and especially for magick it is bad, because a lot of times you don't even know the real dimension of the wall you want to deal with until you first magickally bump into it in the process of attempting a real spell/transformation.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2017-09-04 06:15:08 (dmiqioh)
That makes sense. I agree with importance the back and forth dynamic you're talking about here. I just wanted to emphasize that there is such a dynamic in learning transformations, especially in 'probability/spell magic' since I felt like that aspect was missing, or at least under-expressed. But perhaps it was missing in my mind or understanding but was readily obvious to everyone else.
Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2017-09-06 08:12:57 (dmm1lqj)
Yea, I agree. That's pretty much what most of my life about: figuring out how and "where" I am not allowing myself to live the way I want. Basically learning the things you're talking about.
You're totally right that there is so much deep down in my intentionality that is against any would be "magick."
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2017-09-08 09:13:49 (dmpg1lv)
To continue with an unrelated thought.
I think I've realized what may be one possible barrier for me in magic although I haven't thought it through in detail yet. On the one hand I am hesitant to believe that everyone can do magic because I don't want to be in a situation where others are more magically powerful than me since I'm currently magically weak. Seems dangerous.
On the other hand I have deep tendencies toward egalitarianism and tending to see the same rules that apply to others as applying to me.
As a result I think there's a conflict that makes it much tougher to do magic.
Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2017-09-10 05:53:52 (dms8ryf)
Same here. I think in some spiritual sense we must have similar background. I can relate to what you're saying almost all the time.
Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2017-09-10 11:59:02 (dmsoq2n)