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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.” - Karl Popper

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotta love the good ole tolerance paradox

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No paradox there: tolerance is not a moral precept. Relevant quote:

Tolerance is not a moral absolute; it is a peace treaty. Tolerance is a social norm because it allows different people to live side-by-side without being at each other’s throats. It means that we accept that people may be different from us, in their customs, in their behavior, in their dress, in their sex lives, and that if this doesn’t directly affect our lives, it is none of our business. But the model of a peace treaty differs from the model of a moral precept in one simple way: the protection of a peace treaty only extends to those willing to abide by its terms. It is an agreement to live in peace, not an agreement to be peaceful no matter the conduct of others. A peace treaty is not a suicide pact.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I understand what you are getting at, it is literally self-defined as 'the paradox of tolerance' by Karl Popper.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a paradox. Tolerance is a peace treaty, not a moral precept.

We don't call it a "diplomacy paradox" when a country responds to getting invaded by killing the invaders.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that what Karl Popper, the guy they're quoting, calls it though?