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Then you look at the temperature and think eh…45 isn’t that bad. We’ll survive. That will be the moment the wind whips up and sleet starts hitting you in the face.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

IMO there is no reason to cling to the idea that feet and yards, Fahrenheit, pounds snd ounces, cups and pints make any sense.….it’s kind of embarrassing as an American. We should have just bit the bullet and switched 40 years ago but we are lazy and have no willpower.

We should start calling them freedom degrees and just own that we are stubborn for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's the tool manufacturers. They love selling you two sets of socket wrench sizes for $$$$.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

American here too.... I'm totally OK with switching to metric as long as we keep Fahrenheit for weather. It just makes so much more sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMO it's not even about something making sense, we're just very accustomed to fahrenheit, so it feels more natural to us.

I'll be the first to admit that I have no idea about what's warm and cold in Celsius. I know 0 is quite cold, 20 is room temperature, and 100 is near instant death.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

100 is near instant death.

Otherwise known as Dallas, Texas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20 is a hot room, 15 is room temperature

10 - 30 is average for most weather in moderate parts of the world 5 - 10 is it cold night <3 and you have snow 50 would be a desert

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

15°C is way too cold as room temperature, 18 - 20°C is the minimum at which I'm comfortable

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

22-23 is where I'm comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Depends on the weather.

If it was 23 outside that would be hot. I don't want it that hot, my body is acclimatised to cooler temperatures.

I had my house up to 20 the other day and it was too hot and I had to open some windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Celsius is an absolute measurement of a physical phenomenon, and can be tested to check its validity. Fahrenheit is a measurement of what some person a long time ago personally feel like at the time, and it's not even accurate for most humans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How does it make more sense??? They're both just numbers in a scale, but at least one had a useful couple of data points.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’m ok with Fahrenheit but would just make it easier if the whole world used the same, so I’d be cool with switching.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Using -10 - 40 as a range of temperatures experienced by humans makes way less sense than 0 - 100. We’re a base 10 species so it’s much better for regular use.

Metric aficionados rightly point out that the other measures are all nicely base 10, so why doesn’t that argument hold for temperature too? Celsius is inferior.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Water boils at 100 celcius and freezes at zero. Most temp ranges are (~)-40 to +40 (for now). Each base 10 you speak of gets a slightly different outfit. It’s intuitive and easy to plan for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Celsius definitely makes sense for gauging how you'll feel at different temperatures if you're water. Fahrenheit works better for human beings though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What? No way dude. 0 and below is freezing temperatures. Negative = cold. 0-10 requires light coat and maybe a beanie. 10-20 is sweater weather. 20-30 is t shirt weather. 30-40 is hot as fuck weather.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or a simple scale from 0 - 100. 0 being extremely cold and 100 being extremely hot (from the perspective of a human being)

I live in a Celsius country and for the thermostat, we have to deal with decimals to fine tune the room temp. Flipped the thermostat to Fahrenheit and it instantly made more sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree to disagree. 19.5 degrees inside is perfect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Perfect at what?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But you're still using too-large chunks. Being comfortable requires finer tuning than C degrees, and I don't like having to use a bunch of decimals or fractions either.

Edit: I see you like 19.5 which makes my point even though I prefer 72.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Except when water doesnt boil or freeze at 0/100; Based off altitude or salinity and some other things. You dont need a whole temperature scale based off those 2 factors. Water will boil when it bubbles on the stove, and will freeze when it turns solid in the freezer. Kelvin is better for scientific numbering. Fahrenheit is better for daily life.

I will admit, distance and volume measuring is better metric. I'm so sick of having to play the math game of teaspoons to tablespoons to cups etc. Distance is easier too once you use it for a while. I bet you could ask a ton of people how far a mile is, and many wouldnt be able to give you distance in feet...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The ranges experienced by humans" is extremely variable. My friends from hotter countries can barely handle 10°C, but are fine at 40°C, and it's entirely the opposite for me.

I assure you that for regular use, Celsius works great. I don't really think either is better than the other in practice (outside of chemistry), but "it's the range people experience" is kinda bull. A 10 degree F difference from 0 to 10 is very different from 60 to 70.

Also, water freezing at 0°C (and boiling at 100°C, to a lesser degree) is quite convenient in everyday life. Just check for a minus sign and you know if it can freeze.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and it's not like you can't experience temperatures that are not 0-100°F. Here in Sweden (and Finland) we have saunas, and I can assure you that there is a difference between 100 and say 110 Fahrenheit.


btw, is there any word for "being in a sauna" in English? In Swedish we would say "basta" , which is mentioned in our dictionary (in SAOL and SO but not in the SAOB article from 1901) but Google translate fails to translate it. We also have the longer form "bada bastu" that translates to "take a sauna" but I really prefer the shorter form.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not aware of any word like that