this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2023
98 points (77.8% liked)

Asklemmy

43902 readers
1138 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I 'upvote' more or less all posts I interact with (sometimes I forget to vote). I feel like we should bring back open dialogues and heavily dissuade people from simply disregarding someone's entire belief system or ideals based on 200 characters of text (an example).

Think about one person in your life who you first thought was a complete asshole and once you got to know them they were pretty cool, maybe you became best friends with them. The point is, judging a person based on a minute snippet in time is a fool's errand, and your own state of mind contributes a lot to your own judgement of people. Your next thought might be, well they have a history of x, y AND z, so they deserve every bit of judgement coming their way! I would ask you, why? Are you not simply fueling further hatred, vitriol and division? So instead of stopping for a moment and thinking about the world from someone else's perspective, you'd rather just spit out some more hatred and move on like that person doesn't exist?

I would love to see some solution to the shitty state of the Internet. I only say Internet because for the most part this doesn't happen in real life in my experience. I think it has to do with consequences and social sigma and so on. I reckon it would be pretty awesome if there was something like the following:

  • all upvotes are free range, people can give out upvotes like they were candy
  • downvotes come at a "cost", whereby if you want to downvote someone you have to reply directly to them with some justification, say minimum number of characters, words, etc.

In an ideal world, and setup, this would help raise positivity in the world and have people at the very least have a second thought before being negative.

Yes I understand there would be flaws, I've worked with and used computers for a long time, I know. I chose not to delve deep into those as I feel that would defeat the purpose of the message I'm trying to convey. And, you know, lead by example.

What do ya'll think? Any suggestions to boost positivity in the world, I'm all ears, smash them and any other thoughts in the comments.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvotes/downvotes mean nothing. At least here. On reddit, if someone says something people don't like, their post will be downvoted below the threshold and automatically hidden. Lemmy doesn't do the automatic hiding, so the downvotes just mean nothing.

The only thing it really does is let people express their frustration or agreement without having to start a conversation. Like yelling boo or cheering at a performance. I'm not against that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't the comments sort in order of popularity?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that means I have to read them all. One of the things that drew me to the other platforms was the fact that the smartest or whittiest answers came to the top.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, that's not what you get on any of these platforms. The most upvoted thing is just gonna be the thing that made people press the upvote. Which is usually either because it's funny or "I agree."

The top thing is often flat out incorrect in whatever it's saying, but people don't know and it sounds about right so up it goes. Make a habit of reading everything, it'll do you good. And at least for now lemmy is good at scaring away the racists and the nazis so you don't have to read any of that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, but it’s still always better than stuff I see at the bottom. And it’s rarely worse than when order was determined by speed of reply

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The voting mechanism enabled "the wisdom of crowds."