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Why is it always graphene os drama.
Also are you really expecting evidence for a cp/gore flood, like wtf? Not only are you asking for people to screen cap that (like they even have anything to prove), but you only have to be in there a few days to actually see it happen.
Evidence for gore, unlike CP, can be provided to independent and critical folks like us. The real lie was only a fellow mod of GrapheneOS offtopic Matrix chat was "verified source" as evidence for such content being posted there. Micay claims to be autist and uses it as excuse to harm or accuse people of horrible things, and never apologising to anyone.
The internet has a very simple rule, for any mature person that has used this technology for a long time - EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE. Now while you would say, CP can be an occasional and legitimate occurrence in underground and private chatrooms, the reason why this demand exists is because Daniel Micay has lied over dozens of times about various people and groups, calling me a "paid agent sent by Chinese govt to destroy privacy community", Techlore and CalyxOS evil people, developers of Bromite and Florisboard "neo-nazis" without evidence, Louis Rossmann being "complicit" in a (never proved) attempt to swat him, and so on.
Here is a very good reddit post by a long term user that documents Micay's instances of accusations with no evidence. https://old.reddit.com/user/lo________________ol/comments/1314x2x/why_did_i_do_this/
Literally who gives a fuck
I do.
Anyone who uses sophist name calling like "neo nazi" can just fuck right off in my world.
That shows clearly their intent is a personal attack and not a search for understanding/knowledge/truth.
I have seen this "political/drama" bullshit cloaking of legit issues for years on Reddit. People who hate Firefox for "woke politics" and use Brave to enable homophobia engage in same crap. Not going to let this Reddit behaviour repeat on Lemmy, and allow disuniting privacy community here as well.
Keep this disgusting apathetic selfish behaviour out of Lemmy. This falls under the "be nice" rule.
This drama has never brought any good and just brings down everyone involved. He clearly has some issues and that doesn't need advertising. And that includes me he's also called an undercover agent or whatever that's against graphene because I like Firefox. In fact these comments will probably find a way back to him somehow, it's better to just not feed these things.
I will have you know that 10 days ago, I asked on the GrapheneOS sublemmy about evidence for the alleged swatting incident, since it has been 5 months. The comment was removed by akc3n, and he banned me within hours claiming "abusive behaviour targeting project members". They are clearly hiding facts and dodging scrutiny because it was a lie all along.
They are the ones who create and thirst for drama. And if everybody starts to admit that, and NOT mention his project's name EVER AGAIN to give it publicity, the resistance from people like me will stop.
There are plenty better and more effective methods for privacy and security on Android. And it is written multiple times that we have to trust the software developer and their behaviour conduct track record as basis for it (which Micay is incapable of, as seen in the past years), because software code can be hidden in plain sight, can do a lot of things, and is never bug free. Any "bad" thing can be labelled as a bug by anyone.
Stop feeding the drama then
Stop protecting the drama queen then. If anyone mentions his project's name as an attempt to give it publicity, and him or his acolytes not apologise to any of us, resistance will continue.
Cringe
Its not cringe, stop this apathy and individualism. It kills the unity of privacy community, and its not like there are too many good intent people to begin with. Moral intent is the most important element to establish trust, and repeated liars ain't one to trust.
What unity
The leftover sane people and guide writers, who are not sheeps of blind toxic cults like Apple, Brave, Google, GrapheneOS and few others.
Reddit's privacy communities have already fallen (https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/179b8f5/what_happened_to_rprivacy/), so your pessimism here is unneeded and obstructive. FOSS privacy spheres need builders, not what you are doing.