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do you think the framework laptop is a good long term investment? (frame.work)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u01AbiCn_Nw mental outlaw video:

hi everyone, i was planning on getting a new laptop cheaply for about 500ish but then i stumbled upon this near-totally modular laptop rhat starts out at above 1000 bucks. do you think the cheaper laptop in the long run is just a false economy and i should go for the framework or what? if you want to ask questions go ahead but im mainly concerned about the longterm financials (and how well it will keep up over time)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It supports faster protocols, yes. But "USB-C" on it's own just defines the plug and the socket, and nothing more. That the hardware supports faster protocols does not mean that it can be used to describe a faster connection.

It's nitpicking, but it is important nitpicking 🙃

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point here, for those downvoting this post, is that if you go out and buy something "with USB-C" it could for example only support the Low Speed rate of USB 1.0 (that's all of 1.5Mbps, only good for stuff like mice and keyboards) and still be absolutelly legitimatelly be listed for sale as "having USB-C" because that's just the connector format.

(Actually it's even worse, as there is a charge only mode for that connector which does not require supporting any USB data modes at all)

There is indeed a connection between the connector (pun not intended) and the maximum speeds supported (but not necessarily present) because USB-C adds additional data lines not present in USB-A or any of the USB-B connectors, which allow higher data throughtput, but the connection is only in the direction of "higher speeds require USB-C", not "USB-C implies higher speeds".

All this to say that, IMHO, the previoua poster is right in calling attention to the difference.

[–] phundrak 1 points 1 year ago

You are absolutely correct. USB C is capable of faster protocols, but it doesn't mean all USB C ports actually implement them. Hell, on my work laptop, the only USB C port implements an older protocol than the other USB A ports.