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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do people really not understand that we are in the early stages of ai development? The first time most people were made aware of LLMs was, like, 6 months ago. What ChatGPT can do is impressive for a self contained application, but is far from mature enough to do the things people are complaining it can’t do.

The point the industry is trying to warn about is that this technology is past its infancy and moving into, from a human comparison standpoint, childhood or adolescence. But, it iterates significantly faster than humans, so the time it can do the type of things people are bitching about is years, not decades, away.

If you think businesses have sunk this much money and effort into AI and didn’t do a cost-benefit analysis that stretched out decades, you are being naive or disingenuous.

[–] flumph 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think businesses have sunk this much money and effort into AI and didn’t do a cost-benefit analysis that stretched out decades, you are being naive or disingenuous.

Are you kidding? We literally just watched the same bubble and burst in companies that rushed to get their piece of the Metaverse and NFT cash grab. I worked at a SaaS company that decided to add AI features because it was in the news and Azure offered it as a service. There was zero financial analysis done, just like for every other feature they added

I'm sure Microsoft has a plan since they invested heavily. But even Google is playing catch-up like they did with GCP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AI is actually useful.

The metaverse and NFTs aren't.

Your analogy is not a 1:1 representation of the situation and only serves to distract from the topic at hand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But there is a similarity, the hype pulls in all sorts of companies to blindly add buzzwords without even knowing how it might possibly apply to their product, even if it were the perfect realization of the ideal.

Yes AI techniques obviously have utility. 90% of the spend is by companies that don't even know what that utility might be. With that much noise, it's hard to keep track of the value.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But there is a similarity, the hype pulls in all sorts of companies to blindly add buzzwords without even knowing how it might possibly apply to their product

Yes, I see what you are saying. I guess we can add 'blockchain' to that list, then.

[–] flumph 1 points 1 year ago

The person I responded to didn't say AI was useful. They said that companies are doing financial analysis before investing. That simply isn't true across the board.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do people really not understand that we are in the early stages of ai development?

Yes. Top post in this thread is someone cheering that AI won't replace people in hollywood.

Just give it time. Remember how poor voice recognition and translation software was at first?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Top post in this thread is someone cheering that AI won’t replace people in hollywood.

I really like how I'm just "someone" here now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, who pays attention to user names?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pretty much all improvements aren't "better tech", but just "bigger tech". Reducing their footprint is an unsolved problem (just like it has always been with neural networks, for decades)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Optimization is a problem that cannot be "solved" by definition, but a lot of work is being done on it with some degree of success