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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I sometimes wish exile was still a thing. It's only an idle thought and I know if it was it would be misused massively but god damned.

My mum and her parents came here to rebuild away from all the pain caused by Nazis. Now they're on the rise again, it's such an odious and infectious ideology that I'm not sure we're culturally prepared to handle.

Even just the presence of a handful poisons community, as you can see here where a couple of horrible people can inflame and terrorise a lot more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Exile used to be a tempting idea to me too, but it's a bit of an "out of sight out of mind" solution. The exiled will end up somewhere, and likely damage the environment and original inhabitants of the area. Just like the first colonialists destroyed the food sources of Sydney's Aboriginal population in the late 1700's (and that's before we get to the possibly-intentional spreading of smallpox).

Even if we could ethically-ish dump them on the moon, you'd just be creating a hostile neighbour. Sci fi has already well and truly explored the possible outcomes of that scenario for us.

Unfortunately, we as a society made them, we've got to be the ones who contain and prevent the damage they cause. And somehow, we need to do it ethically too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I don't like thinking of the individual people this way but personally I think Nazism like a virus. It's always dormant and attaches itself onto subcultures and fringe communities. It evolves and adapts to different contexts, always trying to exploit opportunities for division and hatred. And it thrives in democratic societies that tolerate different points of view - it exploits that. Essentially any complex, cosmopolitan society is always at risk of a nazi epidemic breaking out. Similar to viruses, you can never really erradicate them but you can try to immunise your society and prevent it from taking over your democratic systems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Same. It would be better for everyone if we paid other countries to take criminals and extremists instead of putting them in cages.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

No not like making them someone elses problem. Just like sending them off into the no longer existing vacant wilderness to survive or die as they see fit, cut off from the communities they parasitise.

It's a very silly daydream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Let's just swap everyone on Christmas Island out for them