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Hey! Thanks to the whole Reddit mess, I’ve discovered the fediverse and its increidible wonders and I’m lovin’ it :D

I’ve seen another post about karma, and after reading the comments, I can see there is a strong opinion against it (which I do share). I’d love to hear your opinions, what other method/s would you guys implement? If any ofc

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Web of trust. The biggest thing missing from most attempts to build social networks so far. A few sites did very weak versions, like Slashdot/s friend/foe/fan/freak rating system.

Let me subscribe, upvote, downvote, filter, etc specific content. Let me trust (or negative-trust) other users (think of it like "friend" or "block", in simple terms)

Then, and this is the key... let me apply filters based on the sub/up/down/filter/etc actions of the people I trust, and the people they trust, etc, with diminishing returns as it gets farther away and based on how much people trust each other.

Finally, when I see problematic content, let me see the chain of trust that exposed me to it. If I trust you and you trust a Nazi, I may or may not spend time trying to convince you to un-trust that person, but if you fail or refuse then I can un-trust you to get Nazi(s) out of my feed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a novel idea, I can certainly see the nice implications of it, but it also seems incredibly excessive. Would you really going around flagging every user you see on a trust system? Or even enough users for the system to be moderately effective? And then expect many other users to do the same?

I honestly don't think I'd use it, blocking people is enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I maintained a substantial set of tags for problematic users of all types so I knew to avoid commenting or engaging with them. In an given community it's common for there to be a tiny percentage of prolific posters who are a real problem and tags with res is how I managed that. It absolutely can work and arguably twitter's block and mute functions do a similar thing as thevpy reduce a user's presentation considerably.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found very interesting the concept of chain of trust :) What is the friend/foe/fan/freak?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slashdot has a friend list and foe list. Fan and freak are the lists of people who name you as friend and foe respectively.

https://slashdot.org/faq/friends.shtml

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the reading! That is very interesting concept that I’d love to see implemented here 👌🏻

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think a thing like this will even be required in the near future. Because we can no longer trust that we are talking to real humans, therefore some trust system (including physical interaction perhaps?) will be needed to not get social networks drown in AI dystopia. I have bookmarked this comment which describes the krass scenario we might find ourselves in soon: https://lemmy.ml/comment/878882
@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Re "physical interaction"... Are you old and/or geeky enough to know about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party ?