this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2023
196 points (85.8% liked)
Asklemmy
43959 readers
1059 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy π
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- [email protected]: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
The notion that free* healthcare, free* education, subsidised transport, government provided unemployment supports etc is even labelled βsocialistβ strikes me as particularly American.
Having lived for quite a long time in canada, I think most Americans would love the it.
Semi related - The USA is already socialist if you consider they have more spent per capita on healthcare, and pay for things like roads, police, fire departments, schools and the like. On the last point, they pay all the way through High School and then significantly subsidize universities as well. It's all a matter of degree. In the usa, we socialize on many fronts, and then pay companies more than we would pay to socialize the same service and consider that better. Imo, it's very much not.
I'm not sure if spending more per capita means "socialize" healthcare. Isn't the problem with US healthcare is that "accessing healthcare at any time without the worry of financial burden" is not currently true for everyone?
I think your definition is a fine one. I think the Nuance I was trying to make and perhaps did poorly was that the US already pays a huge amount for healthcare but we pay it to companies to do research that they then use to make profit worldwide. Not to provide services for everyone. It's a matter of priority
Socialism isn't a welfare state, socialism is when the workers own the means of production.
No no no
Socialism is when the government does things, and when the government does a lot of things, that's communism.
#boomerlogic
#jokeslibsthatwanthealthcaredontget
Donβt forget the farmers who are subsidized.
That meaning of support is a non-countable noun, like water or happiness (or Lego, but lots of people get that one wrong). There is no plural of non-countable nouns.
You might use (for example) "bodies of water", "levels of happiness", "pieces of Lego", or "sources of support" etc.
Silence, bot, the only thing worse than a pedant is one that isn't even correct.
One thing I'm not loving about going from reddit to lemmy is the amount of pedantry by people stuck somewhere between A and B on this graph.
Never heard of linguistics or prestige dialects, just go around parroting nitpicks they learned in 7th grade grammar classes.