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I live in Australia but normally get around with a folding bike that I can take on busses and trains easily, however I have decided it's time to learn to drive, not due to any love of cars but rather just so I can do it if needed. Also I technically own half a car so it would be good if I can use it if I am ever moving or doing a political event or something.

So on to the story, my driving instructor was a good teacher, however the entire time he was complaining that cars don't have right of way and have to go 40kmh lmao.

He watched a pedestrian cross the road on a green pedestrian light, and complained about the pedestrian not looking... because they have right of way. We also had him tell me the busses shouldn't just pull out when they have indicated for 5 seconds and should still give way (legally they do not have to... because they are moving far more people than a mostly empty car)

Also said it was stupid that cars have to go 40kmh on busy roads with businesses on either side of it as pedestrians may want to cross, instead of having to give way to cars...

Do people in cars really all constantly get mad they don't have absolute right of way at all times???

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Where I live now, in the Nordics, I get really agitated when I see people (in cars) standing in the middle of crossings and blocking T-junctions to smaller roads. Unlike in the Netherlands, and probably most countries, you can tell that there is way less time spent with an actual instructor (not claiming Dutch drivers are perfect, people in general are not flawless, let a lone in a high speed box on rollers). Another thing that annoys me is the amount of people on their phones while driving, it is insane. I didn't observe it like this in the Netherlands, but that I might just have missed this. Mobile phones must be the most dangerous addiction if we can't even put them away when doing potentially dangerous activities.

I completely recognise the experiences you have while driving. My primary transport is public transport. I love it as I can chill and let my mind just relax a bit, but we have access to a car, and, indeed, when using it (when I snoozed a few too many times), everything is upsetting (the issues in the first paragraph are in general bothering me though) and their is no chill time when driving to work. I like driving on a holiday, cause you get to see new things and get to drive scenic routes, but as a means of everyday transport it is the worst.

I can give the people here some slack. The streets are terrible, even in the urban space. And it does indeed help a lot to have guidance and good structural rules on how to use the roads (like roundabouts).