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Why did you say "stay away from Spotify"?
Because Spotify uses (not their own) podcasts to generate revenue, but doesn't pay the creators.
Every podcast does that.
Also they host many podcasts and have their own advertising service which can insert ads dynamic ads into the podcast from which the Podcaster is profiting too
Source: trust me bro
You might actually hear a podcast host say that if you listen to enough podcasts. I have heard it in the Bits und so podcast, directly from the host.
Also, Spotify bought their own studio (Gimlet), for that they are obviously paying the creators.
Also, there is this wonderful specialty toy, I think it is called Google. You can search for things and find answers to urgent questions, all by yourself.
So it actually does pay the creators.
It pays the creator if the creator offers pay to view content. So technically, it takes money from the creator's subscribers.