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The poverty rate stuff is pure bs. The world bank just lowered the stated official poverty line without actually improving living conditions.
https://www.jasonhickel.org/blog/2019/2/3/pinker-and-global-poverty
As well as the average life span being skewed by those same infant mortality rates. People have been living long and now they're forced to retire later.
Plus, while we have extended life, we haven't made progress with extended life care. So you might live 20 years longer, but those 20 years will be spent in your bed waiting for your nurse to clean your diaper.
besides this, China did a huge job on getting people out of poverty - if you like or not
Mass producing shit at inhuman factories with deaths by the millions. I guess you're not poor if you're just dead.
Technically correct. A dead person is neither rich nor poor.
So that's what happened to the middle class.
The best kind of correct
Look at the statistics. I am not lying. You can complain, but that are facts.
If you look at the history of western countries industrializing it didn't look much better.
Life expectancy has also gone up. You’re lying through your fucking teeth.
Why wouldn't people like it?
because they hate china...
Maybe I'm too naive, but even if you hate a country for its economic and political choices, you can still be glad their working class population is getting out of poverty and It's not like they are getting richer by slaving a whole continent
Yeah... you can like some things and still hate everything else about it. Not everything is black or white - but some don't like grey-scales.
This writeup is a great argument, here's some highlights I thought were good:
"You literally have two nickels to rub together. You're fine."
It holds true no matter what poverty line you choose.
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo2gwS4VpHc